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bykerlads
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wests of byker
« on: Saturday 26 September 09 17:12 UTC (UK) »

Has anyone any ideas about finding records of the births/baptisms of the children of Allen and Mary WEST of, in 1871, Byker Bank, Newcastle.- children are John b.appx 1875,Barbara b.1877, Allen b.1879, Catherine b.1881and Joseph born sometime later, either in UK or Ireland.All siblings are b. Newcastle.
Seems to be no trace of births in BMD's despite Allen and Mary's mge. being registered.
Mother Mary was nee Mcdonough and b. Galway Ireland.
Father Allen b. N/C and d.1884.
A real mystery!
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Re: wests of byker
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 September 09 18:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi welcome to RootsChat

There is a birth for a John West Mar Q 1875  Newcastle T.  10b 124
also a birth for a Catherine West Jun Q 1881 Morpeth  10b 327

nothing for the other 2 anywhere in england or wales. It may be that those particular pages have not been transcribed for whatever reason, records missing, poor quality. It may be you may have to go direct to the local register office.

Gary
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Re: wests of byker
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 September 09 18:12 UTC (UK) »

cannot find the birth of barbara
can see her in 1881 in byker
and there is a death in 1890 that fits perfectly
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Re: wests of byker
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 September 09 16:58 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for info- could anyone tell me at which churches in Byker the children might have been baptised and if the parish records are available anywhere?The parents Allen West + Mary McDonough were m.1874 in "the district chapel in the chapelery of St Annes, N/C." - it seems odd that the children were not baptised given that the parents were "properly" wed. Mary was from Ireland so maybe catholic.Allen was a real Tynesider, from a long line of watermen/keelers.
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Re: wests of byker
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 September 09 18:58 UTC (UK) »

Bykerlads,

Allen West and Mary McDonough married as you say in 1874 Byker St Ann's
(Church of England)

A Catholic Church, St Dominic's was nearbye. (operational from early 1870s)

Allen West died 1884, aged 32.

Mary West nee Mcdonough married Alexander Fenwick in 1890 at St Michael's with St Lawrence ( Church of England)

As well as St Dominic's Catholics used St Andrew's ( from late 1700s) and St Mary's ( now Cathedral) from 1840s.



But if they knew they had a duty to civily register the births of their children, as they did with John  in 1875, one would have though they would have done it with all of them. Huh

Allen junior died aged 4 yrs 1883. Barbara died 1890 aged 13 yrs. ??

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Re: wests of byker
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 September 09 07:43 UTC (UK) »

Thanks to all for info. I had got the deaths but had not "clocked" Mary's re-marriage- I can now proceed, but the registration of the births of the children remains a mystery.
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Re: wests of byker
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 September 09 08:28 UTC (UK) »



And 1875-born John West on C1891 with Grannie Mc Donough and Aunty Kath, Uncle Stephen in 28 Quality Row ( page ref 4213-17-12).

Then maybe on C1901 at 27 Conyers (4790-7-6) with mother Mary, step dad Alexander Fluker and step siblings.

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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
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