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Topic: 1861&71Census lookups Wright Family Liverpool (Read 422 times)
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NSWelshwoman
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I would much appreciate having some help in locating information on some members of a family of Wrights who lived in Warwick St Toxteth Park (saw millers). The family comprised (in 1851) Samuel Wright (bn 1806), his wife Mary formerly Ward (bn 1806-8), Martha (bn ~1832), Samuel junior (bn~1835), Mary (bn~1837), Catherine (bn~1839) William (bn1843) and Thomas (bn ~1846).I would really like to know:
1) 1871 census: Where was Samuel Wright junior [married to Jemima F in 1861] and his brother Thomas and who were in their households?
2)1871 census: Catherine married John Hodgson, a Prof of Music in 1870 at West Derby. What was her household in 1871?
3) Martha and Mary - with such common names they are not easy to find. In 1861 Mary was unmarried, aged 24 & still at home. No sign of Martha. An 1861 census for Martha and 1871 for Martha &/or Martha would be marvellous, but may need to find a marriage record first.
Greatly appreciate any help with any bit of the above. NSWelshwoman
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MaryA
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For ease of finding them, I'm going to post the 1851 census together with their birthplaces. Since some of them weren't born in Lancashire it might help, also occupations often do too.
1851 97 Warwick Street, Toxteth Park
Samuel Wright Head M 44 Sawmill Proprietor employing 12 men Cheshire Marshall vernon?
Mary Wife M 45 Middlesex London
Martha daur Un 19 Lancs Liverpool
Samuel Son Unm 16 Millwright (Ap) " "
Mary daur Unm 14 " "
Catherine daur 12 Scholar " "
William son 8 Scholar Southampton, Hants
Thomas son 5 Scholar " "
Sarah Ward Grandmother Widow 79 Retired Grocer Middlesex London
HO107; Piece: 2187; Folio: 195; Page: 19
In 1861 at 14 Warwick Street, Toxteth Park
Mary Wright Head Wid 53 Saw Mill Proprietress employing 8 men and 3 boys Leicestershire Leicester
Mary daur Unm 24 Lancashire Liverpool
William Son Unm 17 Engineer's Ap Hants Southampton
Thomas son Unm 15 Hemp Merchant Ap " "
10 Warwick Street
Samuel Wright Head M 26 Civil Engineer Lancashire Liverpool
Jemima F Wife M 27 " "
Mary Hughes Servant Unm 15 House Servant " "
RG9; Piece: 2701; Folio: 43; Page: 34
1871 - 52 Conyers Street, Kirkdale, Lancashire
Samuel Wright Head M 36 Engineer on steam Vessel Lancashire Liverpool
Jemima F wife M 37 " "
Robert Son 9 Scholar " "
Samuel Son 6 " " "
Grace M Williams Serv Unm 16 Domestic Servant " "
RG10; Piece: 3824; Folio: 37; Page: 19
There is a possible marriage for Martha to Joseph Whaley in St Michael, Toxteth Park, 1854, you would need to check the marriage certificate to confirm the fathers name before accepting it, but if it is correct
1861 Marsh Lane, Litherland, Lancashire
Joseph Whaley Head M 37 Timber Salesman (Dealer) Cheshire Little Langhall
Martha Wife M 29 Lancashire Liverpool
Mary daur 4
Martha daur 1 Litherland
Mary Poole Servant Unm 23 House Servant Wales
RG9; Piece: 2726; Folio: 100; Page: 39
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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MaryA
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I think the 1871 census confirms Martha's marriage.
4 Pembroke Road, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire
Mary Wright Head W 65 Annuitant Middlesex London
Martha Whaley daur W 39 " Lancashire Liverpool
Mary " granddaur 14 Scholar " "
Martha " granddaur 11 " " "
Henry " grandson 9 " " Seaforth
Margaret K " granddaur 7 " " "
Joseph " grandson 5 " " "
Kate Gavan servant Unm 17 General Servant Lancashire Liverpool
Antonia V Dunin Boarder Unm 17 Student Brazil Paro (this is male)
Neville Evans Boarder Unm 31 Engineer Middlesex Shoreditch
RG10; Piece: 3831; Folio: 123; Page: 32
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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MaryA
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Another marriage certificate that would need to be checked
Mary Wright to William H Trant at St Michael Toxteth Park, 1862. Gut feeling tells me that this might be right, going by the church Martha's marriage took place in, but also the age is right.
1881
2 Pembroke Road, Bootle Cum Linacre, Lancashire
William H Trant Head M 47 Master Mariner Devon Kingbridge
Mary Wife M 44 Lancashire Liverpool
Kate W daur 15 " "
Alpen W.V. son 14 " "
Arthur S son 10 " "
Edgar L son 7 " "
William H son 4 " "
Ann Collins Servant W 30 W " "
RG11; Piece: 3693; Folio: 17; Page: 27
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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MaryA
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1871
2 Pembroke Road, Walton on the Hill
William H Trant Head M 37 Master Mariner Devon Kingsbridge
Mary Wife M 34 Lancashire Liverpool
Henry S Son 7 Scholar " "
Kate M daur 5 " " "
Alfred W.V. son 4 " " "
Arthur L son 7 months " "
Francisco De Mellor Visitor Unm 24 Studying the Business of an English Merchant Brussels Not a British Subject
Mary A Roscow Servant Unm 16 General Servant Lancashire Liverpool
RG10; Piece: 3831; Folio: 123; Page: 31
Births
Henry Samuel Trant Q3 1863 Liverpool 8b 194
Kate Wright Trant Q3 1865 West Derby 8b 416
Alfred William V Trant Q2 1867 Liverpool 8b 191
Arthur Sedan Trant Q3 1870 West Derby 8b 4_5
Edgar Lakeman Trant Q1 1874 West Derby 8b 478
William Harold Trant Q3 1876 West Derby 8b 507
I thought the middle names were interesting
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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MaryA
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Martha Whaley nee Wright married Richard Webster at St Philip, Litherland in 1873.
1881
Field Lane, Litherland, Lancashire
All noted as being born Litherland, Lancashire
Richard Webster Head M 50 Farmer of 144 acres employing 9 men and 1 boy
Martha Wife M 49 Farmers Wife
Ellen Webster daur Unm 22
Elizabeth Harding Webster daur Unm 18
Alice Maud Webster daur 6
Ada Wright Webster daur 2
Mary Whaley stepdaur Unm 24
Henry Whaley stepson Unm 19 Apprentice to Engineer
Margaret Kate Whaley stepdaur 15 Scholar
Joseph Whaley Stepson Unm 15 Scholar
Together with a gang of farm servants
RG11; Piece: 3697; Folio: 60; Page: 50
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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NSWelshwoman
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Many many thanks Beatle for that marvellous collection of information. I am most indebted! With much appreciation NSWelshwoman
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NSWelshwoman
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Mary A - I have just looked more closely at what I have run off the computer in replies to my post and realise that I should be thanking you, in particular. So many many thanks Mary A for that marvellous collection of information. I am most indebted! With much appreciation NSWelshwoman
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MaryA
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1891
2 Pembroke Road, Bootle, Lancashire
William H Trant Head M 57 Master Mariner Devonshire Kingsbridge
Mary Wife M 54 Lancashire Liverpool
Henry S son S 27 Controller? India Rubber Trade " "
Kate W daur S 25 " "
Arthur S son S 20 Steam Engine Maker Apprentice " "
William H Son S 14 Scholar " Waterloo
Catherine Edwards Servant S 23 General Servant Domestic Flintshire Mostyn
RG12; Piece: 2973; Folio 16; Page 25
1901
2 Pembroke Road, Bootle cum Linacre, Lancashire
William H Trant Head M 66 Retired Master Mariner Devonshire Kingsbridge
Mary Wife M 63 Lancashire Liverpool
Henry S son S 37 Merchant's Clerk " "
Maggie A Jones Servant S 18 Domestic Servant N.W. Bangor
RG13; Piece: 3459; Folio: 83; Page: 1
A couple of marriages
Alfred W V Trant to Martha Sumner at St Mary, Bootle in 1892 and
Kate W Trant to William G Williams at St Mary,Bootle in 1893
367 Park Road, Toxteth Park
William G Williams Head M 36 Physician and Surgeon Merionethshire Corwen
Kate W Wife M 35 Lancashire Liverpool
Mary G J daur 6 " "
Kate D j daur 5 " "
William H J son 3 " "
Lewis N J son 10 months " "
Anne J Erskine Serv M 30 Cook Domestic Ireland
Jane A Hughes servant S 18 Nurse Domestic Anglesea, Aberffaw
RG13; Piece: 3436; Folio: 8; Page: 7.
12 Hyde Road, Waterloo, Crosby, Lancashire
Alfred W V Trant Head M 33 Master Mariner Seas Lancashire Liverpool
Martha Wife M 29
Alfred Son 7 Seaforth
Noel son 5 Bootle
Mary V daur 2
Alice Wardlesworth Servant S 23 General Servant Domestic Lancashire Castleton
RG13; Piece: 3444; Folio: 155; Page: 45
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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Thank you again Mary A - it is great to see the families through into the later census' and subsequent marriages. What a treat! NSWelshwoman
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1891
8 Field Lane, Stonehouse Farm, Litherland, Lancashire
Richard Webster Head M 60 Farmer and Coal Merchant Lancashire Litherland
Martha Wife M 58 Lancashire Toxteth Park
Martha Whaley Stepdaur S 31 Farmers Daughter Lancashire Litherland
Margaret K S 27
Alice M Webster daur S 16 scholar
Ada W Webster daur S 12 Scholar
Joseph Whaley stepson S 25 Farmers son
Mary Wood servant 18 Domestic Servant Bootle
RG12; Piece: 2984; Folio 56; Page 57
1901
8 Field Lane, Litherland, Lancashire
Richard Webster Head M 70 Farmer Employer Lancashire Litherland
Martha Wife M 69
Martha Whaley stepdaur S 41
Margaret K Whaley S 37
Ada W Webster daur S 22
Edith F Stubbs granddaur 12 Lancashire Orrell
Hannah S Horst Servant S 22 General Domestic Servant Lancashire Widnes
Richard Norton Servant S 46 Farm Labourer Ireland
RG13; Piece: 3449; Folio: 12; Page: 16
Archibald Stubbs married Mary Whaley, St Philip, Litherland 1881
1891
Park Lane Farm, Park Lane, Orrell and Ford, Lancashire
Archibald Stubbs Head M 34 Farmer Lancashire Litherland
Mary Wife M 34 Liverpool
Joseph W son 8 Seaforth
Mary daur 5 Orrell
Edith T daur 2
Annie Grayson Servant S 30 General Domestic Servant Litherland
Annie Cooper Servant S 15 Orrell
Patrick Connor Servant S 27 Agricultural Labourer Ireland
RG12; Piece: 2984; Folio 37; Page 20
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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MaryA
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Don't forget to check the 1911 censuses, which is pay per view, but search some of the postings about it and you should find some hints about searching the indexes to try to get the best out of it and make sure you have the right family before you spend your money.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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MaryA
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Well done Beatle, I should have thought that the owner of a saw-mill would have an obit.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford) Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin) |
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I found Samuel snr's death reported in the Liverpool Mercury, Friday, December 12, 1851.