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madmurph
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elenor stokoe
« on: Tuesday 29 September 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »
this lady was in winterton hospital 1891 and 1881 according to family stories i dont know why but she was with the family in 1901 she died there during the 1st world war im hoping the name is right because she is only ever referred to as granmother and i have no other info on them
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 12:26 UTC (UK) »
Hello Alison

Welcome to Rootschat  Smiley

What exactly are you trying to find out about Elenor Stokoe?  Are you trying to link her to your family?  Was Stokoe her married or maiden name?

If you'd like to give more details of who she was with on the 1901 census and her age and place of birth, to save us having to search for it, that would help.  Do you need the earlier census lookups before 1881?

Durham county records office has patient records for Winterton if you're trying to find out the reason for her admission:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/076s/

Kind regards
Barbara  Smiley
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 12:51 UTC (UK) »
just looking for family connections and why she was in the hospital or even if she was it could have been the other granmother margaret gray finding more as i read.  hope this makes sense
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 12:54 UTC (UK) »
Well if you can just give the details I asked for perhaps we can help  Smiley

Barbara
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 13:25 UTC (UK) »
she would be my gggranmother born about 1848? married to george stokoe 1866 children
annie 1868
george 1876
richard 1875-1907 my g grandda
lived at bell terrace elswick newcastle they had a shop on scotswood road a newsagent and barbers around 1881 -1901
elenor is missing on census apart from 1901 they are living in scotswood rd by then.  so id like to know why she was in winterton
and where she was born sure it was durham and anythingelse about her you can find
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 13:55 UTC (UK) »
It was the census references for 1881-1901 I'd like really, so that I can have a look at them all.  I found an Ellener STOKER mother in law living with John & Elizabeth Ainsley in 1891, not in Winterton hospital as you said, is that the right person?
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 14:26 UTC (UK) »
hello
i dont think so the notes in the certificates i have been given are difinatly stokoe and the name elen or elenor and it just says granmother died sedgefield mental hospital 8 dec 1918 maiden name longstaff
married to george stokoe 25 feb 1866
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 14:44 UTC (UK) »
This must be George then in 1871.  No wife present, will see if I can find her.  As there's a young baby, it's possible she may have had what they called mental problems after the birth and was admitted to Winterton, maybe just had post-natal depression.  She must have come back home though, to have Richard in 1875 and George in 1876, then maybe became ill again.  You should be able to look at the records at Durham records office (link given earlier)

1871 RG10 Piece 5079 Folio 41 Page 2
18 & 19 Armstrong Street, Elswick, Newcastle
STOKOE
George  28 head married Joiner & Fruiterer   Corbridge Northumberland
Thomas  4  son    Scholar   
Annie     3  dau   
Mary     1     "
Emma    3 months
Margaret SCOTT  serv 15 General Servant   Durham Bishopwearmouth
   
1881 census can be seen here, Thomas & Annie still with George, and children George & Richard now appear, but not Mary or Emma.  Maybe Ellenor had problems after childbirth again
http://www.rootschat.com/links/076t/
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 14:51 UTC (UK) »
Hi Alison

1901 census Piece: 4768; Folio: 82; Page: 6. shows Elenor crossed out Huh

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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 14:57 UTC (UK) »
1891 census RG12 Piece 4194 Folio 12 Page 19
183 & 185 Scotswood Road, Elswick

STOKOE
George       48 Newsagent & Hairdresser   Corbridge
Annie      23
George      17 Hairdresser
Richard      16          "
children born Newcastle


1901 census  RG13  Piece  4768  Folio  82 Pages 6/7
183 Scotswood Road
George Stokoe  head 58  Newsagent and Hairdresser  Corbridge
Elenor Stokoe     wife
Annie Stokoe       dau  33                         Newcastle
George Stokoe    son  27  Hairdresser          "
Richard Stokoe      "    26         "                    "
Margaret Scott  niece  14                      London Southgate
Mary Scott        "      12                           "               "

Quote from: madmurph on Tuesday 29 September 09 12:18 UTC (UK)
she was with the family in 1901

Elenor's name is crossed out on the 1901 census and no details given for her, so I don't think she was actually at home in 1901   

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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 15:03 UTC (UK) »
Gary, roots is playing up a bit, I didn't see your post about the crossing out til after I'd already posted !

Barbara  Roll Eyes


Alison, have you looked at the 1911 census for all of them?
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 15:05 UTC (UK) »
Thats ok Barbara Grin

This must be her in 1901 Piece: 4816; Folio: 198; Page: 11.
Patient at coxlodge.

Added shows as married aged 53

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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 15:28 UTC (UK) »
[b]1901/b] census RG13 Piece 4816 Folio 198 Page 11
Newcastle on Tyne City Lunatic Asylum, Coxlodge, Gosforth

E. STOKOE  patient married 53  no occupation   b. Newcastle upon Tyne St. Andrews     (Lunatic)

a bit about it here: http://www.ntw.nhs.uk/section.php?l=2&p=194


so according to that she was born Newcastle, not Durham

Barbara
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Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 15:33 UTC (UK) »
thank you very much
i had veiwed 1901 but didnt realise it was crossed out not nice discribed as lunatic  her age should be 55 though.
been reading lotsof notes i found a couple of hours ago starting to make sense of it now
thanks alison
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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: elenor stokoe
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 29 September 09 15:35 UTC (UK) »
Hi Alison,

Ages on census (and certificates) vary a lot, so I wouldn't worry about that too much


Is this their marriage?

Mar 1866  Newcastle On Tyne    10b   119   
Stokoe    George    and on same page  Longstaff    Ellen   
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