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jenwren
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Hi Folks,
At hair-tearing point... trying to find any details on Elizabeth VIGERS, born Spreyton, Devon 1828-29. The last I can track her is the 1861 census, age 32, unmarried, working as a housemaid for J Walker at Marpool Hall, Withycombe Rawleigh.
Father John and mother Jemima nee WAY/WAYE/WEY married 1828, Spreyton.
Elizabeth's sister, Mary, born 1831, Spreyton, married John Henry BERRY in 1862 at Marylebone, Middlesex. They and their 5 children immigrated to New Zealand in 1873 where they then had Isabella in 1874 (my g-grandmother). Yet to track them to Australia, but they arrived around 1880 re Isabella's death reg (not all children).
Meanwhile, back to Elizabeth - sometime after 1861 she also married a BERRY - family heirlooms bearing names Elizabeth Vigers 1853 and Elizabeth Berry 1873. Numerous searches with name variations have turned up nothing. (Devon records for Spreyton scarce.) It's as if she dropped off the planet after the 1861 census...
Any help, knowledge, suggestions would most appreciated.
Jen
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claret49
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Hi,
My grandmother was a Vigers, and her father and grandfather were Spreyton born, 1810 and 1846 (both called Samuel). I have a large collection of Vigers photos of that period, with of course few names! However I will see what information I can find. (My cousin has a Vigers tree, compiled by Ern Vigers of Canada.)
Phil
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jenwren
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Oh, wow, Phil, can't help but feel in awe of the 'large collection of photos'. It's all very well to get dates for a tree, but I'm the sort of person who wants to 'know' the people and wonders who they really were and of course what they looked like.
Going by the info I have, your Samuel of 1810 could well be my John Vigers' brother!
I've got them as children to William and Jemima, along with Jane, James, Sarah, George, Robert, Joseph, Mary, Anne, and William (jnr).
I'll be over the moon if it works out there's a connection and you can throw some light on the family, or point me in the right direction.
Fingers and toes crossed while waiting eagerly
Jen
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claret49
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Hi Jen,
On my tree I have: William, bpt 16 May 1769, Blacksmith at St. Cherries, Spreyton, married (Jane)? and died 1845. Children: Samuel(my gggrandfather), John, William,James,Jane,Richard,Sarah,George, Robert and Joseph.
I don't know how accurate this is,.... but a possible?
Phil
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jenwren
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Hi Phil,
Certainly sounds like them! I can't swear to the info I have, as have received some of it via others.... But that's what this is all about.
William's wife, Jane (Unknown), (married c1797) seems to be a mystery in all info I've come across.
William Jnr (missed him originally) appears to also have been a blacksmith at Viney Tedburn, Crediton, Devon in 1851, aged 55, brn Spreyton, and married Jane Popham in 1816 Spreyton, Devon. Had one son that I can so far find, called John. His wife Jane b Drewsteignton, Devon.
William Snr Snr MAY have married Mary Langmead 1768 in Spreyton, Devon.
In the UK archives I found mention of a 'removal order in 1922 for Jane, wife of William Vigers the younger, Mary 5 and Ann 3 their children to Colebrook', so assumed, incorrectly it seems, that Will snr died and left Jane and the youngest two struggling... The ages and years match up with the info I have, but begs the question why were they turfed out? Then again, I might have 'lines' crossed - it's happened before.
As for my lot:
John Vigers (ggg grandfather) seems also to be a blacksmith like his dad, married Jemima Way/WEY 1828 in Spreyton, Dev.
Kids:
Elizabeth b 1828 Spreyton, Dev (turning out to be a very elusive after 1861)
Mary b 1831 Spreyton, Dev (gg grandmother) marr John Henry Berry 1862 Marylebone, Middlesex, migrated to New Zealand 1873, then to Melbourne Australia c1890 - according to Mary's death certificate - d 1891 Melb, Aust. John Henry is proving equally elusive.... Know he was here (Aus) due to daughter's marriage announcement, but yet to find more than that. He's not buried with his wife, Mary.
John b 1837 Crediton, Dev
William (yet another one....) b 1840 Crediton, Dev
Emma b 1842 Crediton, Dev.
If you think we can help each other more, please (!) let me know? And, if you would like this more coherently, I can email or send somehow, what I have (not that it's reams...).
Jen
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claret49
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Hi Jen
Just typed out a load and then somehow deleted it!.........................  ................
(Anyway start with a correction! it's Venny, not Viney, Tedburn.)
Willam snr snr married Mary Langmead 12 Jan 1768. His father was John Vigures, married Anne Earle, May 3 1735, Okehampton, Devon. He died 12 Feb 1756.
Still trying to contact my cousin to send me the Vigers Tree which should answer ALL your questions!
On my original message I typed up some recollections from my aunt (now deceased)of the Vigers family at Spreyton..... which has gone!!, may try tomorrow. (One finger typing.)
Phil
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claret49
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Hi Jen
Finally got papers etc from my cousin. Trying to figure them out, some pages are missing, most of compiled in the 70's, and I bet its the ones we want! To confirm: is your John (ggg grandfather) bapt 1 july 1798?, father William 1768-1845, married Jane-?.
William, who married Jane Popham, died by accident in 1868,...2 daughters Mary and Jane.
I'm getting mixed up myself!
I will try to see my cousins, Vigers, at Venny Tedburn, tomorrow and see if they have other information or missing pages.
I've attached 2 photos from our Vigers family album which had Auckland, New Zealand on the back. It might be as well to post copies etc to you at some stage? Are you in Oz?
Best wishes
Phil
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jenwren
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G'day Phil,
You seem to be going to a lot of trouble on my behalf, and I do truly appreciate it!
Thank you for the photos. Not sure if they of any of my lot, but I LOVE them! There were a couple of Vigers in NZ. Lots of newspaper items about Charles Kenneth Vigers who was big in banking. There's also a bit of info on a Benjamin Vigers in NZ.
To confirm: is your John (ggg grandfather) bapt 1 july 1798?,
Yes, Had the year but not the actual date. According to what I have, he married Jemima WEY and they had 5 children, John, William, Mary, Elizabeth & Emma - all between 1828 and 1848. Mary's the one that married into the Berry family.
father William 1768-1845, married Jane-?.
Also Yes. Have him as Bapt. St Cherries, 16/5/1769. Marr c1797 to Jane ?? Plus other children of middle William :-) - John, Jane (married Joseph Dymond), James, Sarah (maybe married Samuel Langman?), George, Samuel, Robert (maybe married Ann Lavis?), Joseph, Mary,and Anne.
William, who married Jane Popham, died by accident in 1868,...2 daughters Mary and Jane.
Have him as William (Blacksmith) - Married Jane Popham Sept 1816 Spreyton. Didn't know about the accident, or the daughters. Have a son John?? Also have his death as 1845 at Okehampton Ref 10 115???
It certainly does get confusing, particularly when William fathered William, who also fathered William....
Yep, I'm in Oz. Just discovered, yesterday, that one of my rellies in the Haworth line, lived and died here in Maldon, Vic. I guess I came 'home' but didn't know it....
Good luck and say G'day to the rellies for me :-)
warm wishes,
Jen
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Welsh Girl
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Hello ...
There is too much information on these messages .... 
I am linked to the VIGERS tree in Kenton & Starcross ... any good?? ....
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Welsh Girl
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Vigers isn't a common name really .. although there are quite a few variations of the spelling (and transcriptions) Vigars, Vigeurs, Vigoss and so on ,,,,,
If we could find a common link, that would be fantastic ...
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