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COMPLTED - 1861 Census - Robert DREW
« on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:05 UTC (UK) »
Please could someone find this family for me in 1861? 
Robert Drew married Mary Ann Odell (b.1830 Bengeo) in Hertford in 1853.  I found them in 1871 living in St John Hackney with 2 children, Susannah 17 (1854) b. St Johns Wood and Mary 10 (1860) b. Lewisham.   Robert died in 1876 aged 73 and from the 1871 census it looks as though he was born in Devon.
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Re: 1861 census for Robert Drew
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:16 UTC (UK) »
1861 - RG9/415; Folio: 79; Page: 10 - Lewisham
7, The Grove
 
Robert Drew 56 Head  ~~~~ Clerk to an Attorney born Devon, Brad~~~~
Mary Ann Drew 31 Wife born Herts, Chapmans End
Susannah Galman 7 daur born Middx, St Johns Wood
Marian ~~~ [Odell?] Galman 2 Mo daur Lewisham

Fanny Drew 22 Visitor UnMarried born Surrey, Cobham
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:26 UTC (UK) »
Robert was previously married ....

1851 - HO107/1517; Folio: 454; Page: 23 - Clerkenwell
26, Holford Square

 
Thomas E Rowley 37 Head Warehouseman Umbrellas Yorkshire, Silkstone
Sophia Rowley 42 Wife Devon Bradninch
Robert Drew 44 Bother In Law (Wife's Brother) WIDOWER Accountant Devon, Bradninch
William H Drew 15 Nephew Articled Clerk to Solicitor Clerkenwell
Emily I Drew 17 Niece St Pancras

Jane Allen 22 Servant
Emma G Harris 9 visitor
James Bull 20 Lodger
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:28 UTC (UK) »
Thank you so much
Mary Ann had a brother born in 1828 who also had the second name Gillman (Galman) so it came from the Odell side of the family, so definitely the right family.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:34 UTC (UK) »
1841 - HO107/672/Book 7 Parish of St George Bloomsbury; District: 9; Folio: 39; Page: 23
Upper Bedford Place, No 9


None born in Middx

Sophia Summers 35 Ind
Robert Drew 32 Office of Excise
Robt Chas Nicholl 30 Barrister
Jane Nicholl 25 Ind
Emily Jane Drew 7
Willm Henry Drew 8
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Re: 1861 census for Robert Drew
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:54 UTC (UK) »
Many thanks for the extra information.
Emily Jane Drew was a witness at the marriage of Robert and Mary Ann and I had always wondered whether this could have been his daughter, or his sister, so now I am sure it was his daughter.  The other witness was Thomas Rowley.
I am sorry to ask but could you try to find Mary Ann Odell in 1841 for me please?  Her parents were William and Susannah.  I think I have found her in 1851 in Kensworth, apparently the stepdaughter of William and Ann Lockett, but I don't know why.
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Re: 1861 census for Robert Drew
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:59 UTC (UK) »

Emily Jane DREW
Born, 18 November 1833
Christened, 15 June 1834, Old Church, St Pancras, London
Parents, ROBERT Drew and MIRIAM

William Henry DREW
Christened, 27 May 1833, Bridford, Devon
Parents, ROBERT Drew and MIRIAM

So we know Robert with children headed for London abt late 1833/early 1834 with or without Miriam


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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:02 UTC (UK) »
consistant then !   Wink

1841 - HO107/444/Book 6 Parish of Benegeo;  District: 5; Folio: 8; Page: 11

'Chapmans End'
 
Wm Lockett 35 Farmer
Mary Lockett 60 Not Born in County
Clara Lockett 3
Mary A/Odell 11
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Re: 1861 census for Robert Drew
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:06 UTC (UK) »
Robert DREW married Miriam NORTHCOTT
22 December 1831, Bridford, Devon

This and previous info extracted records IGi at Familysearch

Possible christening;
Robert John DREWE
08 January 1804, Colyton, Devon
Parents, ROBERT and ELIZABETH
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:08 UTC (UK) »
did that couple in Colyton also have a daughter Sophia ?
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:11 UTC (UK) »
Maybe why Smiley

Marriage;
Susannah ODELL
William LOCKETT
26 September 1832, Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London, England
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:16 UTC (UK) »
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Maybe why


cos 'our' chap was with his sister Sophia in 1851 .....  Cool
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:16 UTC (UK) »
No Sophia on that batch;
Robert DREWE 1804
Mary, 1805
Elizabeth, 1812
Emma Rachel ,1814
John Leighton, 1807

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Re: 1861 census for Robert Drew
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:16 UTC (UK) »
My thanks to both of you for your interest.
It explains why I couldn't find a death for Susannah but according to the freebmd a Susannah Lockett died in 1840 which would explain why she was not with William in 1841 and why he had a different wife if 1851 and proves that Mary Ann was, in fact, his step daughter.

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:21 UTC (UK) »
I was answering " maybe why" to Deltas question on post 6.

Sorry if I confused the issue Embarrassed
And missed the Sophia connection.

At least you know the connection now Delta Cool

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