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DREW family in Calne
« on: Wednesday 30 September 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi I wonder if anyone can help!
I am looking for a Francis drew born in Calne in 1865, The only census I can find him on 1881 in Merthyr Tydfil with his mother Jane Vaughan (drew) remarried with her new husband William from calne. I cant find Francis on the 1871 census or any other in formation. I cant find any information on William Vaughan either before the marriage to Jane in merthyr tydfil 1877 11a 600. I was wondering did Jane go home to calne after her first husband died and brought home her son Francis and her new husband and married in Merthyr tydfil?
Any information on the drews would be greatly recieved.
Lisa
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Re: Drew family in Calne
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:05 UTC (UK) »

the 1881 that you have actually tells us quite a lot more about the family and their movements

William Vaughan 48 bn Calne Wilts
Jane 49 bn Calne Wilts
William Drew stepson 19 bn Glamorgan
Francis Drew stepson 16 bn Calne
John Drew 14 stepson  I annoyingly cant make out his birthplace but it is not Calne or Glamorgan!

so there are 3 children to look for which might help find them in 1871.
they clearly had links with Wales - but I see on that 1881 that there are a family of Drews born Glamorgan just a few doors away (on same page) so maybe Mr Drew her first husband hailed from that area.
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Re: Drew family in Calne
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi thanks for replying
John was born in Glamorgan, I have pieced together the family in Hirwaen but when it comes to the 1881 census there is a extra person Francis Drew born calne on the Census who I cant find any records for on on the 1871 census. William and John are living with Jane and her late husband William in 1871 in Hirwaen but in 1881 Jane as remarried William Vaughan from calne I was wondering did she go home and Francis was with her relations and brought home a husband and son. I cant find anything regarding William Vaughan except the marriage to jane and from the 1881 census onwards. William was born in 1833.

Best wishes
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Re: Drew family in Calne
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:18 UTC (UK) »

Here they are in 1871! But Francis is not with them

RG10 5403 41 30

Penderyn, Breconshire

William Drew 42 coaker bn Calne Wilts
Jane 43 bn Calne
Thomas 19 son bn Calne
Mary 17 dtr bn Glamorgan Aberdare
George 16 son bn Glam. Aberdare
Harriett 13 dtr bn Glam. Aberdare
William 9 son bn Brecon
John 4 son bn Brecon
Merriah? 22 dtr bn Newport Monmouth

so they did move about Wales a bit!
I wonder where Francis was, or if he just got missed off by mistake?
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Re: Drew family in Calne
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »

In 1871 William Vaughan is at
RG10 5329 23 5  -Bedwelty, Monmouth

He is born Calne, and has a wife, Mary,  but no children with him.
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Re: Drew family in Calne
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »

Thats the family! Yes Francis is missing I cant locate him anywhere on the 1871 census or birth records thanks you so much for the William Vaughan location that was great. The entries for the drews in the street are other family members from Jane and William Drew. There also looks like william drews brother is within the area also and all come from a cornelius drew from calne.
thanks for your help.
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Re: Drew family in Calne
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 15:50 UTC (UK) »

Here is the family in 1861

RG9/4063 F4 p4

Hill? St  Penderyn

William Drew  Head M 32  M  Coker                b Calne
Jane       "       Wife  M 34                                      "
Maria      "       dau      12                                      "
Thomas  "       son       10                               b Newport
Mary      "        dau        7                               b Calne
George  "        son        3                                b Hirwaen
Harriet    "       dau        3                                       "

No sign of Francis in 1871

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Re: Drew family in Calne
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 18:05 UTC (UK) »

Its strange where Francis is. I cant seem to find him at all only with Jane and William Vaughan in 1881
I cant seem to find any record of him
Thanks for the information.
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Re: DREW family in Calne
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 October 09 09:03 UTC (UK) »

This could be his birth -

Ap/May/Jun 1866
Chippenham reg district, ref 5a 49

Francis H Drew.
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Re: DREW family in Calne
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 01 October 09 09:07 UTC (UK) »

IF that was him, and IF his middle name was Henry, and IF he was known by his middle name  - then this COULD be him in 1891

RG12 1596 57 5
Calne
Henry Drew 25 farm labourer bn Calne
lodger in H/H of lots of Smarts.

Lots if IF's that need sorting before you take this as being him though.
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Re: DREW family in Calne
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 01 October 09 09:11 UTC (UK) »

Another possible scenario is that stepson Francis is actually a Stepdaughter Frances, and 1881 is not accurate.

There is this birth
Jan/Feb/Mar 1865
Calne reg distr 5a 76
Frances Mary Drew

(reg distr much nearer what you would expect that the Francis H I found)
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Re: DREW family in Calne
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 01 October 09 09:16 UTC (UK) »

I WAS liking that theory, but now not so sure as I think that girl  Frances is on 1871 at
RG10 1901 47 9
as a daughter of George and Martha in Calne (called Fanny Drew)
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Re: DREW family in Calne
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 01 October 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »

This could be his birth -

Ap/May/Jun 1866
Chippenham reg district, ref 5a 49

Francis H Drew.

Liz, I dont think it can be him. There is a Francis Herbert Drew  b 1866 in 1871 b N Wraxall
living with parents John and Elizabeth Ann. Residence Gameskeeper Cottage North Wraxall.
N Wraxall would be in Chippenham  Reg district

Still no sign of Francis.   Huh Huh Huh
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Re: DREW family in Calne
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 October 09 13:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi all thanks for all your help on this, I have been to the RO in Merthyr Tydfil as this covers Hirwaen, area and I can find any church or any other records for francis, its strange that all the children since Mary Ellen 1854 where born in Glamorgan whilst he was born in Calne 1865. Perhaps the family went home for a short spell ? .
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Re: DREW family in Calne
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 01 October 09 14:55 UTC (UK) »

But there isnt a birth reg for him in Calne ......

and we have just ruled out the only 2 birth reg's anything like him.
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