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Topic: Scott/Adoption/1919..need help! (Read 2320 times)
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MonicaLesl
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That phonebook entry is not connected for an Edward, Paperhanger, 8 Evangelist Rd N.W.5. From what I can see, the Houchin family look to have had a number of the men showing as paperhangers. There are militiary papers for WW1 showing for an Edward Houchin b. 1895 and living at 8 Evagelist Rd. Likely 1901 census ref for him and also another Houchin family RG13; Piece: 132; Folio: 170; Page: 58
But all of this is digressing and moving away from the main focus of the post 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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wrighk00
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Monica, I've tried 2x to e-mail you off-line and asked once on this posting..since there are living members, should reference to Houchin/Dowling marriage be removed?
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Daisy Loo
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The rules of Rootschat, as I understand Kathy, are that no details of any living members of families be posted.
Since Annie Teresa Dowling & Edward Houchin have long passed, I don't think there is anything wrong in posting the details of their marriage.
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MonicaLesl
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As Marty has said, no problem regarding the period we are talking about for Annie T and Edward. We have all, as you have, stopped from mentioning any descendents for them given the period of their births.
I haven't received any PMs from you Kathy. I'll send you one now for test- not sure why and where they are going.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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dawnsh
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Does anyone know if it's possible to get the certificate with the signature on it? I'm sure after almost 100 years it's packed in some dark dungeon!
The only copy certificate with an actual signature on it will be on a marriage entry from the church, if the register has been deposited at a local archives.
It's highly unlikely you'll get a photocopy from a register office of a birth, death or register office marriage, they are only obliged to give you certified copies (or transcriptions in other words).
The wording at the bottom of a copy cert issued by a register office is 'Certified to be a true copy of an entry in a register in my custody'
The wording at the bottom of a copy issued by the GRO is 'Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a register of Births, Still-births, or deaths (or Register of marriages) in the district above mentioned. Given at the General Register Office under the seal of the said office on (date entered here)
Dawn
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSherry-Paddington & Marylebone, Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley, Chandler-Chelsea |
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wrighk00
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It seems that Annie Dowling and Edward Houchin were both Catholic so hopefully we will get the name of the church where they were married. I would just like to recap where I'm at with all of this (with the kind help of so many people on this site):
What we know:
1.Mona Dowling was born same month and year as Mona "Scott"
2.Mona Dowling's mother's initials are A.T. as are Mona "Scott"'s mother's
3. Mona "Scott's" mother was finding a home for her the same month Annie Teresa Dowling was getting married to Edward Houchin
4. There is no birth record for a Mona Scott nor a death record for a Mona Scott
5. We have been unable to find an A.T. Scott female, plenty of males
or a marriage that would point to being the same person although I have several more to check
6. Annie Dowling Houchin's family does not know about Mona, but they were told that a child had "died"
7. There is no death record for Mona Dowling.
What we need to connect:
A.T. Scott to a child through records
A.T. Scott to the 13 New Quebec Street address
Annie Dowling to the name Scott
Any help in making the connections would be very much appreciated!
Marty, I know you'll keep me straight!!!! 
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Kathy
How have you established that Annie and Edward were Catholic? Also, how do you know that Annie T's future family were told that a child had died?
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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wrighk00
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From a niece in the family. She had heard that a child had "died." She also said the Houchins were Catholic.
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MonicaLesl
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Have you now made contact with the Houchin family Kathy 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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wrighk00
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Explain ....
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wrighk00
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In answer to question about leaving the country...we have checked immigration records from about that time 1919-1920, but have not come up with any A.T. Scott. There was a Samuel Scott leaving England in 1929 which was 10 years later.
Not Annie Teresa's niece..but someone who has posted genealogy on the Dowling/Houchin family on Ancestry
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aghadowey
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Suppose 'leaving the country', if true, could mean going to Ireland or the Continent and she wouldn't appear in passenger lists of people leaving U.K.
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wrighk00
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Any way to research that then?
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