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Treelover
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Help please have 1915 marriage cert, birth cert and cannot find bride & father
« on: Saturday 03 October 09 15:11 UTC (UK) »

Hello

[b][/b] Please see my last post, more information - and still cannot find them

I have a marriage in 1915 in the Parish of Talgarth, Brecon of

Henry FEAST aged 21 labourer residing Blaenycwn? Talgarth father Richard FEAST labourer

and

Susan Mary STOKES aged 19 residing Talgarth father Edward Stephen Stokes Ganger

Witnesses were Stephen Stokes and Emma Stokes.

I am having great difficulty locating either of these people or their fathers.

There are two trees on A***srty that have Henry marrying Susan but don't have Susan's father, and both say Henry's father is RICHMOND FEAST. Richmond would fit, there are still Feast relatives living in the Hampshire area where Richmond comes from and he is on a census with a Henry that fits. Could it have been written down wrong?

The only Susan Mary Stokes I can see that fits is born Rugby area, but I cannot find her on 1901 census.

Any help would really be appreciated please.

Thanks
Joan


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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 October 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »

HI Treelover

I see what you mean- I can't locate either of these families in 1911 or 1901.

Very odd Angry

I will keep looking though Grin

Carol


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Treelover
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 October 09 15:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol

I'm really going round in circles with them. I have been trying to check the 1911 myself, but not spending credits as yet. Just trying to find people that would match first but I'm really struggling.

Really hope I don't fall at the first hurdle with them Cry

Joan


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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 October 09 15:54 UTC (UK) »

Have you got a copy of the original marriage register or a typed or handwritten copy? If it is the latter I can believe that they may have misread Richmond and put Richard. I should contact the original local register office and ask them to look at their copy. They should do that free as you have already got the certificate so can give them full details of when and where.
When did this couple die? Does their age then match the marriage ages?
Andrea


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Galium
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:04 UTC (UK) »

In 1911 there is a Harry Feast aged 18 in Newport, Monmouthshire. He shows up if you put Fareham in the birthplace box.


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Treelover
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi Andrea

No its not the original. This is a tree I'm trying to do for a friend. I wondered about Richard/Richmond because on my tree I have a certificate just like this one where they had the bride's father's name totally wrong - I mean totally. I was stuck for over a year, then I made contact with a 3rd cousin who had a copy of the original with the correct name on. To this day I haven't a clue how they made such a big mistake??

Henry's birth

As its not my tree, all I know about them is they had a son G born in 1923 in Swansea.

If we say Richmond is correct, which I think he is.

Henry on 1901 census states he is born 1891
Henry on 1911 census says he is born 1899 Not actually downloaded image, just sure its right one still living with Richmond at home)

If we go off the marriage certificate he would be born 1897 Roll Eyes


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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:14 UTC (UK) »

In 1901 there's a 10 year old Harry Feast with a dad Richmond,he's a railway labourer.He has a 21 year old sister with the wonderful name of Orange Grin

Age doesn't tie up with being 21 in 1915- but maybe dad got it wrong?
THe whole family were born in Fareham.

The same family in 1891 have a month old son called Henry Wink

Carol


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Treelover
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Yes, this is the family two other people on An***stry say is the family, with that Henry marrying Susan


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Treelover
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:20 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: Galium on Saturday 03 October 09 16:04 UTC (UK)

In 1911 there is a Harry Feast aged 18 in Newport, Monmouthshire. He shows up if you put Fareham in the birthplace box.

Hi Galium,

Oh dear not sure??? that would make his birth 1893

Now we have 1891 1893 1897 and 1899


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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:21 UTC (UK) »

21 on a marriage certificate may mean 'over 21' rather than being an exact age.


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carol8353
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:23 UTC (UK) »

If Susan Stokes( whoever she is Tongue

) really was 19 at marriage maybe Henry moved his age down a little so as not to look TOOooo old for her?

Or has someone misread 26 for 21?

Carol


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Treelover
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Galium

This certificate is from 1915, I reckon 21 means 21 (presuming he wasn't lying)

I do apologise, but I have to go now. Please, if anyone finds anything however small, I would really appreciate it.

Hopefulyl back online tomorrow

Joan


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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 03 October 09 16:49 UTC (UK) »

Those trees on Ancestry give a death date for Henry of 30 April 1951.

June Q 1951 in the death index list

FEAST Harry T age 60 Stockport 10a 482
FEAST Henry T age 60 Stockport 10a 482

FEAST Harry Thomas birth is registered Jun Q 1891 Fareham district


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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 03 October 09 17:57 UTC (UK) »

There are four Feast births registered in Swansea district with mother's maiden name Stokes. Three Feast marriages with names matching three of the Swansea births were registered in Stockport district.


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Treelover
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Re: Help please have 1915 marriage cert and still cannot find them
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 03 October 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I know I have the correct parents, Henry Feast and Susan Mary Stokes. I'm sorry, I cannot see how the other siblings births will help with my dilemma.

I have looked again at those trees on An***try they both show his name as Henry Feast AKA Harry Thomas Feast. So it looks like he is the correct one. My puzzle is now finding Susan Mary Stokes with her father Edward Stephen Stokes occupation Ganager. My husband has said a ganger is a railway term for someone in charge of a railway "gang". I would expect Edward to possibly have been on a census as a railway labourer 1891/1901?

The witnesses as mentioned are a Stephen Stokes (brother??) and Emma Stokes - possible wife of Stephen. But as yet I cannot find s Stephen Stokes marrying an Emma. I really cannot get anywhere?

Joan


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