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Topic: Help please have 1915 marriage cert, birth cert and cannot find bride & father (Read 540 times)
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Galium
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Hi,
the point I was making is that the age at death of Harry Feast indicates a birth date of c1891.
He died in Stockport district, which is the same district as where three children of Harry Feast and Susan née Stokes were married.
It is, of course quite possible that the two people who have Henry/Harry Feast in their tree on Ancestry have the wrong man, and that the one who married Susan Stokes didn't die in Stockport district, in 1951. But, seeing as the children are marrying in the same district, it looks likely that he is the same one?
Which means that he is probably the Harry Thomas Feast whose birth was registered in Fareham in 1891, and who is Harry Feast in Newport in 1911.
Btw Susan M Feast aged 63 died in Stockport district in Jun Q 1961.
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Treelover
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Sorry, its been a long, long day for me - apologies.
Yes, I can now see where you are coming from  Coincidental if it's not the one that died in Stockport, as his children were all born in Stockport.
Thank you for finding Susan's birth! I feel she is the one born in Rugby. But the marriage was on 2nd August 1915, which if it is the correct one means she was not 19 when she married ?? Oh dear 
Joan
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Atkinson - Congleton, Ches
Broomhead - Lancs
Clegg - Rochdale, Lancs
Dodd - Manchester, Lancs
Jones - Lancs, Shropshire, Staffs
Williams - Salford, Lancs & Wales
Kennerley - Congleton, Ches
Lees - Rutland
Redfern - Lancs & Derbyshire
Round - Staffs
Rowley - Congleton, Ches
Sankey - Burtonwood, Lancs
Shuffle(el)bottom - Lincs & Lancs
Watson - Salford, Lancs & Yorks
Walker - Manchester, Lancs
Wright - Manchester
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Galium
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Hello again. Susan Stokes has been niggling at me rather. I couldn't find anything definite, and the one born in Rugby district isn't obvious anywhere in 1901 or 1911. I wonder whether the family were out of the country for a while?
As she says her father is Edward Stephen Stokes, it is interesting that the birth of a child named Edward Stephen Stokes was registered in 1895 in Barrow upon Soar district, and the death of a 1 year old Edward Stephen Stokes in Rugby district the following year.
The witness named Emma Stokes could perhaps be a sister of Susan's. There is a marriage of Emma Stokes and William J Hill in Swansea district in 1920.
There is an Edward S Hill born 1931 in the GRO index with MMn Stokes. Two public trees on Ancestry have this person (now deceased) as the child of William J Hill and Emma Stokes, and his middle name is Stephen. Unfortunately neither of them name Emma Stokes' parents. They both say that Emma Stokes was born in 1901 in Lancashire, but there is no obvious candidate.
Couldn't find anything more definite, but that birth in Rugby does look promising - and it might be worth contacting the two people who have Emma Stokes in their tree.
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Treelover
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Gosh WOW Galium 
Thank you so much for all your hard work here. Will definately chase up the information you have provided.
Let me know when you have nothing to do, I have now received another marriage certificate and have another problem to solve 
Joan
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Atkinson - Congleton, Ches
Broomhead - Lancs
Clegg - Rochdale, Lancs
Dodd - Manchester, Lancs
Jones - Lancs, Shropshire, Staffs
Williams - Salford, Lancs & Wales
Kennerley - Congleton, Ches
Lees - Rutland
Redfern - Lancs & Derbyshire
Round - Staffs
Rowley - Congleton, Ches
Sankey - Burtonwood, Lancs
Shuffle(el)bottom - Lincs & Lancs
Watson - Salford, Lancs & Yorks
Walker - Manchester, Lancs
Wright - Manchester
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Treelover
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Hi
This is still a puzzle. I received Susan Mary Stokes birth certificate and yes she is the one born Rugby district 20th March 1897. Father Edward Stephen Stokes railway labourer and mother was Hannah Smith.
I have now made contact with the lady who had Emma Stokes in her tree. She is as stuck as I am. Emma was Susan's sister and it looks like the Edward Stephen who died young in Rugby was their brother.
This contact thinks Edward Stephen Stokes was born 1863 and died 1925. Edward married Hannah in Uppingham, Rutland in 1893.
I'm really hoping I don't have to pay for their marriage certificate. I'm doing this tree for someone and have set a moderate fee, I don't really want to be out of pocket once I have gone as far as I can.
There is an Edward Stephen Stokes born Whissendine Rutland who looks like he might fit the bill (there is also one born Derbyshire). Parents Joseph Stokes born 1832 and Mary Stokes born 1837, they fit in and that Edward has a sister Emma and a sister Susan. But it all goes pear shaped as later on there seems to be another Edward born in the family.
Sorry this is a little long winded. Can someone just take a look at the 1871 RG10; Piece: 3300; Folio: 135; Page: 21 and follow the family and see if they can make any sense of it.
Still cannot find Edward/Hannah/Susan on 1891 1901 1911 or Emma on the 1901 or 1911.
Forgot to mention. On Susan Mary's birth certificate her place of birth is Stillinton Warwicks RD. Cannot find a Stillinton even though it is very clearly written on two places on her certificate.
Any offers please
Thanks
Joan
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Atkinson - Congleton, Ches
Broomhead - Lancs
Clegg - Rochdale, Lancs
Dodd - Manchester, Lancs
Jones - Lancs, Shropshire, Staffs
Williams - Salford, Lancs & Wales
Kennerley - Congleton, Ches
Lees - Rutland
Redfern - Lancs & Derbyshire
Round - Staffs
Rowley - Congleton, Ches
Sankey - Burtonwood, Lancs
Shuffle(el)bottom - Lincs & Lancs
Watson - Salford, Lancs & Yorks
Walker - Manchester, Lancs
Wright - Manchester
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Treelover
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Me again
Just realised this post is still under Wales. Is there any way I can move the WHOLE of the post to Warwickshire?
Joan
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Atkinson - Congleton, Ches
Broomhead - Lancs
Clegg - Rochdale, Lancs
Dodd - Manchester, Lancs
Jones - Lancs, Shropshire, Staffs
Williams - Salford, Lancs & Wales
Kennerley - Congleton, Ches
Lees - Rutland
Redfern - Lancs & Derbyshire
Round - Staffs
Rowley - Congleton, Ches
Sankey - Burtonwood, Lancs
Shuffle(el)bottom - Lincs & Lancs
Watson - Salford, Lancs & Yorks
Walker - Manchester, Lancs
Wright - Manchester
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carol8353
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Hopefully a moderator will pick this up now and move it........please nice moderator
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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carol8353
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Here's a list of all the districts covered by the Rugby reg office.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/rugby.html
Could it be Shilton?
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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Treelover
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Hi
Nope its not Shilton
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Atkinson - Congleton, Ches
Broomhead - Lancs
Clegg - Rochdale, Lancs
Dodd - Manchester, Lancs
Jones - Lancs, Shropshire, Staffs
Williams - Salford, Lancs & Wales
Kennerley - Congleton, Ches
Lees - Rutland
Redfern - Lancs & Derbyshire
Round - Staffs
Rowley - Congleton, Ches
Sankey - Burtonwood, Lancs
Shuffle(el)bottom - Lincs & Lancs
Watson - Salford, Lancs & Yorks
Walker - Manchester, Lancs
Wright - Manchester
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carol8353
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Looks like Hillmorton to me?
added- yes Hillmorton, south east of Rugby almost on the border with Northamptonshire.
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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Treelover
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Oooh so it does 
Just wish to could find this family its really driving me nuts
Joan
Thank you moderator for moving my post - much appreciated
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Atkinson - Congleton, Ches
Broomhead - Lancs
Clegg - Rochdale, Lancs
Dodd - Manchester, Lancs
Jones - Lancs, Shropshire, Staffs
Williams - Salford, Lancs & Wales
Kennerley - Congleton, Ches
Lees - Rutland
Redfern - Lancs & Derbyshire
Round - Staffs
Rowley - Congleton, Ches
Sankey - Burtonwood, Lancs
Shuffle(el)bottom - Lincs & Lancs
Watson - Salford, Lancs & Yorks
Walker - Manchester, Lancs
Wright - Manchester
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