tilly25
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Hi
I now need some help with who was the wife of the William Brett on the following marriages,
1908 Salford Apr May June vol 8d page 263
1910 Worksop Jan Feb Mar vol 7b page 99
1910 Bury Apr May Jun vol 8c page 970
Found this information during my afternoon searching at the library, any help would be gratefully received,
Judy
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wilcoxon
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I very much doubt that there was a number 80 The Walks, it seems to me that the death of William Beddowes at No 8 in 1915, took place in the same address where James was born.
There must be a connection there.
Births Sep 1915 Brett, James, MMN Beddowes Wrexham.
Broughton Buildings were on Abbot Street, which is the street running parrallel to Brook Street, so very close.
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wilcoxon
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This is all I can come up with, I`m not sure which of them are the couples.
1908 June qtr.Salford.
William Brett
Lily Brandreth
Elsie Eccles
Harry Peacock
Stephen Pilkington
Eliza Eveline Forster
Ethel Thompson
Thomas Williams
1910 Mar qtr Worksop
William Brett
Emma Holbery
Mary Amelia Holmes
William Henry Parker
Alice Mary Pretty
1910 Jun qtr. Bury
Ellen Ashton
William Brett
Harrison Lee
Margaret Sinclair Shaw
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wilcoxon
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I have just had a look at the Wrexham Cemetery Site again, and in 1915 there were over 20 people buried in the same plot as William Beddowes.
They are all different surnames and quite a few died in the Workhouse, this seems to suggest it was a `paupers` grave.
I had thought there may be a clue to his family in the records , but it doesn`t seem likely now.
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tilly25
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Do we know the age of William Beddowes at his death.
It is 8 the walks wrexham that James Brett was born at, sorry I mislead you, so William Beddowes must have been related to Ethel Beddowes
Judy
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tilly25
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just looked on free BMD and found
Jan feb mar 1915
William Brett aged 1 died wrexham 11b 459
william Beddowes aged 1 wrexham 11b 459
seems a coincidence
Judy
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wilcoxon
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I have just checked the original images to make sure there was no error in the transciptions , and yes they are BOTH on the same page 459. 
I had a look for another burial close to the date of Williams, an Edward Morgan was buried on the 15 March in Wrexham Cemetery , and his death register entry is 11b 462, therefore a later page.
William Beddowes was aged 16 months, according to Cemetery details
I think this is worth looking at more closely, especially as there is no burial of William Brett in Wrexham cemetery. Of course he could have been buried elsewhere.
The staff at Wrexham are very helpful, and I`m sure they will help solve this mystery.
Are you related to the Bretts / Beddowes ?
Register Office
Ty Dewi Sant
Rhosddu Road
Wrexham
LL11 1NF
Telephone: 01978 292027 Within UK
Telephone: +44(0)1978 292027 Outside UK
Email: registration@wrexham.gov.uk
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winston
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HI All
I'm going to throw a spanner in the works and ask does anyone else think that Ethel Brett formerly Beddowes could mean that she had been married before?
It's just that when I have seen this on a cert it usually turns out to be the case.
Judy,
You say you are wanting to find the Brett surname grandparents does that mean you do have more details on Ethel and her parents?
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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tilly25
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Hi Wendy
Unfortunately I do not have any further information on Ethel Beddowes/Brett.
Interesting enough I have just heard back from Wrexham BMD and they can only find a William Beddowes that died in 1915.
We have found an entry for a William Beddowes aged 16 months, There is no entry for a William Brett but interestingly mum was Beddowes but then became a Brett.
So you could be right that she had been married before
Judy
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winston
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HI
I did mention it simply because I have a a similar situation in my tree. I thought when this last census became available I would finally find the answer as to who his parents were, you know age and POB.
But like you 'nada' and my man was born prior to this last census.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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tilly25
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Hi Wendy
I have looked at another member of my family that was married before and on the birth cert for the child it states
Rachel Behn late Massey formerly Boulton ( I don't know if the late relates to the fact that she was widowed)
How will I find out if Ethel was married before without marriage cert between her and William Brett which seem difficult to locate any reference too
Was there such I thing as electoral roll in 1915 for Wrexham, if so where would I find that information
Judy
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wilcoxon
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http://www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/heritage/archives/research.htm
This is Wrexham Museum.
There are lots of useful records there.
If William was 16 months old when he died in 1915 then his birth would have been registered Dec qtr 1913. I think ?
All I can find that matches is this one, there are no Bretts.
Beddowes William (Mothers maiden name Law) Oldham 8d 1075
Could Law and Lowe be the same ,
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