Megran
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Freebmd lists the marriage of a William Brett to Ethel Thompson 1908 2Qtr Salford 8D 263. (GRO reference)
UKBMD for Lancashire lists the same marriage for 1908 (yearly lists) as a Register Office or Registrar Attended. Only the certificate would help. If you decide to send for this to the Salford Register Office you could ask if Ethel had been married before. Salford Registry Office have been very helpful to me.
There is a different reference for the Salford Registry Office application. Maybe you could email or phone them to ask if this Ethel had been married previously.
HTH,
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tilly25
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But if William Beddowes was her son and he died in 1915 aged 15 months surely she couldn't have remarried until after his birth in 1913
or am I missing something
Judy
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winston
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HI
I knew this would happen after my question of the possibility of a first marriage for Ethel.
I too found that Ethel Lowe bn 1887 /John William Beddowes bn 1885 both shown born Oldham and they are together in the 1911 census in Oldham with two daughters Agnes 1909 and Alice 1910 both born Oldham.
In the last census there is 1 William 35 and Ethel 22 Brett living in Moss side Manchester but this William is a shipping Clerk.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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tilly25
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have sent for William Beddowes death certificate, hope it will tell me something
Judy
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winston
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Hi Judy
Will you let us know what is says when it arrives, even if it's not linked?
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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tilly25
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Hi
I found both on the free BMD register seems strange as you say, I have sent for the beddowes certificate hoping that it may throw some light on things
Will let you know outcome when it arrives, hoping it beats the postal strike
Judy
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tilly25
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Hi all
Have now received the death cert for William Beddowes died 8th March 1915 son of Ethel Beddowes now the wife of William Brett. (stated on certificate)
That still leaves the question who was the father of the child ? ethel was married before or the child was illegitimate so now need to find childs birth.
Beddowes William (Mothers maiden name Law) Oldham 8d 1075 that was found earlier was this the only William Beddowes for 1913
Judy
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wilcoxon
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This is proving quite a tricky one. I would think that with names like that it would be rather less difficult than the usual Jones and Roberts we have here in Wrexham.
If there was anything to search for in Wrexham then I am more than willing, but I just can`t see what would help.
I guess all you can do is to make sure that William Beddowes born 1913 had a Mum named Ethel.
There should be a place of Birth which might help, possibly with Electoral Registers.
Good Luck. 
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tilly25
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Hi
Have today sent for birth certificate 1913 oldham district William Beddowes to see who the parents are, hoping that I am on the right track.
Also have e-mailed Wrexham electoral registration dept to see where I can find information for 8 The Walks, Brook St Wrexham for 1915 on-line.
Judy
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maidmarion
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Hi Judy,
You will need to contact Denbighshire Record Office as they keep the Electoral Registers for that period. There weren't any taken during WW1 though so you would have to look before and after the war years. There aren't any online 
http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk/en-gb/DNAP-6ZQKTQ
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wilcoxon
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Have you tried the 1911 census. Unfortunately you are apparently not allowed to ask for a look up on Rootschat 
Using the name varient on Beddowes with a William in the household I found these.
First names ETHEL
Last names BEDDOWES
Birth Year 1890
Birth Year +/- 10 years
Other person first names WILLIAM
BEDDOWES ETHEL 1887 aged 24 Oldham Lancashire
BEDDOWES FLORENCE ETHEL 1892 19 Ormskirk Lancashire
Searching for a William Beddowes and an Ethel in the household
I found this.
First names WILLIAM
Last names BEDDOWES
Birth Year 1890
Birth Year +/- 10 years
County Lancashire
District Oldham
Other person first names ETHEL
BEDDOWES JOHN WILLIAM 1883 aged 28 Oldham Lancashire
Oldham is not where they were born, just where they were living in 1911.
Hopefully this will tie up with the Birth of William , Oldham seems to be a good link.
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tilly25
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had thought of John William Beddowes and Ethel Lowe as a possibility as I think that John William Beddowes died in 1913 this may tie in with the birth of baby William Beddowes and that Ethel may have remarried William Brett.
Awaiting baby William Beddowes birth certificate.
Had a look 1913 census looked at 8 the Walk but they weren't there in 1911, otherwise didn't get very far.
Judy
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