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brendi
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hi all
not sure if this correct place to post
im trying to find information on my family
im trying to find history on my great grandfather
edward james gannon ..from liverpool( possibly wavertree )
born around 1890
not sure when died
he married a catherine ? born 1892 died october 1968 ( unsure if maiden name was chiddlow or siddle)
they had 2 sons Edward and john
Edward married gwendoline skelhorn
john married Mary ? ( not sure if Hollingworth or dunstable )
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Manchester Rambler
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Hallo, and welcome to Rootschat!
This looks like you g-grandparents' marriage on Free BMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
Marriages Sep 1914
GANNON Edward
SIDDELL Catherine
W. Derby 8b 1013
There are a number of possible births for children of the couple, including Edward J (1915) and John (1923) - you can find them by going to the Free BMD site and selecting "Births" - then enter Gannon as "Surname" and Siddell as "Spouse/mother surname"
Edward and Catherine's marriage cert will give you their ages and their fathers' names/occupations: you can order it online from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ (It costs £7.)
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Luzzu
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Hi,
Welcome to Rootschat.
To start you off, this is the marriage:-
Name: Edward Gannon
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Siddell
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 1013
You can do a free search for the births and marriages of their sons by going to www.freebmd.org.uk
I can't post the details on here because they may still be living but I think the maiden name you are unsure of is Hollingworth.
Once you have all the references, you can order certificates online at www.gro.gov.uk and they cost £7.00 each.
Do you know the names of Edward James parents. There is an Edward Gannon born about 1887 in Liverpool on both 1891 and 1901 census and the parents are recorded as James and Lucy. If you think this sounds right I will post the details.
Luzzu
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There are a couple of possibilities for Edward's birth, but this looks like the only one for Catherine:
Births Jun 1892
SIDDELL Catherine
Liverpool 8b 112
This is her family on the 1901 census:
RG13/3417 18 28 - 23 Peach St, Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Head - 53 - Tailor - Manchester
Mary SIDDEL - Wife - 46 - Tailoress - Ireland
Mary SIDDEL - Dau - 16 - Domestic - Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Son - 14 - Message Boy - Liverpool
Martha SIDDEL - Dau - 11 - Liverpool
Cathrine SIDDEL - Dau - 8 - Liverpool
Margaret SIDDEL - Dau - 7 - Liverpool
Joseph SIDDEL - Son - 4 - Liverpool
Daniel ROURKE - Boarder - 24 - Tailor - Liverpool
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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AMBLY
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Hi Brendi
Welcome from me , also 
On LancsBMD ((an excellent source): the marriage is further confirmed
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Marriage of Edward GANNON and Catherine SIDDELL - 1914, West Derby Registrar Office
Where did you get the "CHIDDLOW" name possibility from?
The closest Birth for him I can see is this one on FreeBMD:
Birth: Edward GANNON - Sep Qtr 1889, Oldham
This person appears to be in the 1891 &1901 Census in Oldham.
No middle name James on this birth or the marriage to Catherine in 1914.
Where did the middle name come from in your records?
Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY
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Hi
The Edward GANNON who married Catherine SIDDELL in 1914, has a WW1 Army Pension record:
Attested for Service: 4 Jul 1917: Edward GANNON age 24 & 8 mths, married.
Address: 3 Cross St, Liverpool,
Occupation: Baker
Corps: A.S.C Batl. (Baker), Reg. Nr: 358962
4' 11" tall
Next Of Kin: Catherine GANNON (wife) of 3 Cross Street, Liverpool
Particulars of Marriage:
Catherine SIDDELL (spinster) married 26 Sep 1914, West Derby
Children: (boy EJ as per FreeBMD) born 25 March 1915
His Birth date was given at one point in the record as: as 4 Sep 1892.
He was discharged (quite honourably) as Medically unfit to continue in Miitary Service.
Noting on FreeBMD he and Catherine had a 2nd child's birth registered Mar Qtr 1917 before he attested in Jul 1917, yet only the child born 1915 is accounted for on the form at both attestation and discharge time. A further check of the BMD's shows the 2nd son appears to have died shortly after he was born.
The stated dob (1892) and age in 1917, is a couple of years out on the date you have for your Edward, though.
Cheers
AMBLY
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brendi
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There are a couple of possibilities for Edward's birth, but this looks like the only one for Catherine:
Births Jun 1892
SIDDELL Catherine
Liverpool 8b 112
This is her family on the 1901 census:
RG13/3417 18 28 - 23 Peach St, Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Head - 53 - Tailor - Manchester
Mary SIDDEL - Wife - 46 - Tailoress - Ireland
Mary SIDDEL - Dau - 16 - Domestic - Liverpool
William SIDDEL - Son - 14 - Message Boy - Liverpool
Martha SIDDEL - Dau - 11 - Liverpool
Cathrine SIDDEL - Dau - 8 - Liverpool
Margaret SIDDEL - Dau - 7 - Liverpool
Joseph SIDDEL - Son - 4 - Liverpool
Daniel ROURKE - Boarder - 24 - Tailor - Liverpool
thanks this is the right one for catherine
To start you off, this is the marriage:- Name: Edward Gannon Year of Registration: 1914 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's Surname: Siddell District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 1013 You can do a free search for the births and marriages of their sons by going to www.freebmd.org.ukI can't post the details on here because they may still be living but I think the maiden name you are unsure of is Hollingworth. Do you know the names of Edward James parents. There is an Edward Gannon born about 1887 in Liverpool on both 1891 and 1901 census and the parents are recorded as James and Lucy. If you think this sounds right I will post the details. Luzzu
thanks luzzu it is a good possibilty that is is james and lucy
Hi
The Edward GANNON who married Catherine SIDDELL in 1914, has a WW1 Army Pension record:
Attested for Service: 4 Jul 1917: Edward GANNON age 24 & 8 mths, married.
Address: 3 Cross St, Liverpool,
Occupation: Baker
Corps: A.S.C Batl. (Baker), Reg. Nr: 358962
4' 11" tall
Next Of Kin: Catherine GANNON (wife) of 3 Cross Street, Liverpool
Particulars of Marriage:
Catherine SIDDELL (spinster) married 26 Sep 1914, West Derby
Children: (boy EJ as per FreeBMD) born 25 March 1915
His Birth date was given at one point in the record as: as 4 Sep 1892.
He was discharged (quite honourably) as Medically unfit to continue in Miitary Service.
Noting on FreeBMD he and Catherine had a 2nd child's birth registered Mar Qtr 1917 before he attested in Jul 1917, yet only the child born 1915 is accounted for on the form at both attestation and discharge time. A further check of the BMD's shows the 2nd son appears to have died shortly after he was born.
The stated dob (1892) and age in 1917, is a couple of years out on the date you have for your Edward, though.
Cheers
AMBLY
thanks ambly
the address are correct onthis also the dates you have given for grandfathers dob is correct also there was mention of catherine having a child that died in between edward and john but unure whether was a girl or boy and when he died |
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brendi
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Hi Brendi Welcome from me , also On LancsBMD ((an excellent source): the marriage is further confirmed http://www.lancashirebmd.org.ukMarriage of Edward GANNON and Catherine SIDDELL - 1914, West Derby Registrar Office Where did you get the "CHIDDLOW" name possibility from? The closest Birth for him I can see is this one on FreeBMD: Birth: Edward GANNON - Sep Qtr 1889, Oldham This person appears to be in the 1891 &1901 Census in Oldham. No middle name James on this birth or the marriage to Catherine in 1914. Where did the middle name come from in your records? Cheers AMBLY
hi we had heard the name chiddlow and siddle in the past and no one was sure which was the one for catherine but now now it is definately siddle
the oldham one is not the gannon i am looking for
thanks
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Manchester Rambler
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I can see an Edward GANNON aged 20 living in West Derby in the 1911 census index - it might be worth investing in some credits to see the full details, and check whether he's a baker, for example. He is the only Edward approximately the right age in Lancashire apart from the one in Oldham.
http://fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk/
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Luzzu
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Hi again,
These are taken from the 1891 and 1901 census. Edward's date of birth is recorded as 1887 so its a little bit out on what your originally posted (1890), however these seem to the only ones for Liverpool. If you order his marriage certificate it will confirm his father's name and if we can pin down the right birth reference, a birth certificate will confirm both parent's names and you will also have his mother's maiden name.
1891 census
15 Gildart? Gardens, Liverpool
James Gannon 24 head mar carter
Lucy Gannon 24 wife mar
Edward Gannon 4 son unm
Mary A Gannon 6 dau unm
Lucy Gannon 2 dau unm
Elizabeth Gannon 4m dau unm
Margaret Moran 22 lodger unm domestic
John Talbot 19 lodger unm general labourer
all born Liverpool, Lancashire
RG12/2906/15 p 26
1901 Census
13 Botanic Street, West Derby
James Gannon 36 head mar carter
Lucy Gannon 35 wife mar hawker
Mary A Gannon 16 unm
Edward Gannon 14 unm apprentice
Lucy Gannon 12 unm
Jane Gannon 9 unm
James Gannon 7 unm
Julia Gannon 3 unm
all born Liverpool, Lancashire
Class: RG13; Piece: 3488; Folio: 138; Page: 36
You will notice that baby Elizabeth doesn't appear on the 1901 census so it is highly likely that she died and sadly this seems to be reference for her death:
Jun 1891
Elizabeth Gannon aged 0
Liverpool 8b 58
Luzzu
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brendi
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A possible birth for Edward:- Dec 1886 Edward Gannon Liverpool 8b 62 Like Ambly, I think is odd that in all the records we've posted today the middle name of James hasn't once appeared  and if the census details are correct for your family Edward has a younger brother called James. You've got loads to work with now. Best of luck Luzzu
thankyou all
you have really helped me on this i will order certificate .
.also my mistake on the james being middle name it was only my grandfather that was edward james gannon and the james and edward was a name going through the gannon family sorry if i confused you all
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AMBLY
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Let us know how you get on  We like to see the ends tied up
Hopefully the marriage certificate will name his father (and perhaps address' & witness)which will in turn ensure you do have the right birth/census data for him!
Cheers
AMBLY
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