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Jacquie T
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Arthur Ernest George Harris
« on: Sunday 04 October 09 11:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi List
I am Trying to trace a Arthur Ernest George Harris born 22 09 1902 in Essex England his mother was Eliza Ann Harris born 1880 Essex England No father.
I believe he emigrated to Halifax in 1915?
His Aunt was Catherine E Price family stories tell he married a Evelyn? and had a daughter Gloria?I was told he went to Long Island USA?
all help much appreciated
Thank you
Jacquie
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 October 09 19:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jacquie:

I don't see a Harris, with that exact date of birth, on the American Social Security Death Index.

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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 07:18 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for your help anyway
Jacquie
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi
There is an Arthur Harris born 1908 d 1967 who married Evelyn Rose Jenkins  in 1956 on the Ancestry Canada site, she was born 1906.  The collections Canada site has an Arthur Harris...no middle names, arriving in Canada 1914 but gives his age as 16, I don't know how accurate the transcription is as there is a note stating that the passenger list is difficult to read.  Unfortunately, they don't tell the viewer the destination.
Do you have any further information that would suggest where he ended up, perhaps a province?
Karen
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 October 09 10:28 UTC (UK) »

I think this is Ernest Arthur George Harris I found this just before on Ancestry
Thanks for your help I wonder if anyone can do a look up fpr me I think Ernest came to Canada on the Grampian 11 Sept 1916 I believe he met up with Catherine Price which was his Aunty in Halifax The passenger list is very hard to read.
 Hope this gets me some more info please
Cheers Jacquie

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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 October 09 11:56 UTC (UK) »

The moderators will remove your attachment of the marriage license as it breaks copyright agreements or you can modify your post and remove it yourself and simply type in the relevant information found on the certificate.

This Harris shows a birthplace of Ohio not England.  What were his parents names?  Frank is stated in this record for father- does that agree with your information?

Debbie

Sorry I forgot you had included this information.
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 October 09 12:11 UTC (UK) »

I was going to post a link to the ships image from Collections Canada but they seem to have a scheduled disruption for today.  The ultimate destination seems to be Ottawa.

Debbie
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 October 09 04:29 UTC (UK) »

First of all sorry to the moderators  I am a novice at this my apology's.
Arthur Ernest was always known as Ernie According to my late Mum. Ernest had had an row with his mother Eliza Ann Harris and left for Canada when he was about 14. On this marriage I have found on Ancestry for 1920 in Canada he states his father was Frank I know he had no father but an Uncle Frank, one of Eliza's brothers.His mother details reads B gm not knows his Mum.Her sister is the Catherine Price I am looking for and thank you for her marriage details in Wentworth.I note this marriage is in Wentworth too.Catherine and Eliza,s Mother was Emma Pomfrett .I note on the marriage of Ernest a witness of which reads W H Pompfrett I think. My Mum seemed to think that  Ernie was a president of a Steamship company HuhHuh
He was supposed to have gone  to Long Island.Ernest spent most of his life living with his Grandparents Henry and Emma Harris found him in the 1911 census of Essex England. Thank you to everyone for all your help. Jacquie
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 October 09 14:30 UTC (UK) »

The details of the marriage registration in question are
Ernest Arthur George Harris, s/o Frank Harris and can't remember mother's name, steamfitter, 22, bachelor, Presbyterian, living at 62 Market St. Hamilton, born Acron, Ohio.
married on July 16, 1920 at Hamilton, Ontario to
Evylin Ross, price clerk, 19, Presbyterian, of 144 Strachan St. E. Hamilton.
witnesses: Alf A. Brown and W.M. Philpott both of Hamilton.

On the 1911 census Wilber M. Philpott is living with his parents in Hamilton, Ontario - probably the witness on the marriage certificate.

Debbie
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 October 09 15:27 UTC (UK) »

I can see why you are interested in a marriage in Hamilton as Katherine married her husband Arthur there in 1913.

I found a border crossing from Canada to the U.S. for Ernest A. Harris, steamfitter, May 12, 1924 at Niagara Falls.  It is the same Ernest whose marriage record you found except some of the details don't agree with the marriage certificate.

His age is 21, married, steamfitter, Canadian nationality, born Hamilton, race Scotch, address 36 Oak Ave. Hamilton and that is the same address for his wife Evelyn.  His stay in the U.S. is indefinite and he had never been to the U.S. before.  The flip side of the card shows he married Aug 1, 1920 at Hamilton by Rev. Philpott, Baptist.

Debbie

I should add that the date he gives as his marriage August 1, 1920 is the date that ancestry has the border crossing indexed under but the front of the card gives the stamped date of May 12, 1924
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 10:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Debbie
This is sure a can of worms, lots of discrepancies I am pretty sure that this might be Ernie certainly a few mystery,s here I know he landed up in the  U S A I wonder if there is a death for him in the same USA
Thanks for you input
Jacquie from Australia
great niece of Ernie
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 October 09 06:42 UTC (UK) »

To add to the confusion:
Victoria Evaline Ross Harris crossed the border from Canada to Detroit, Michigan on 12 July 1946.
She was born in Hamilton, Ontario April 12, 1901.  She was Scotch.  She was a Housekeeper.
Her last permanent address was 15048 Forrer, Detroit, Michigan. 

Nearest relative or friend: Sister Mrs. Hunter Finlayson, living on Cannon East, in Hamilton, Ont.

Victoria had been in the U.S. from January 1928 to date.  Entered or lived in Detroit, Mich.

She was returning to her home on Forrer.
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I don't have access to the records, but a Victoria Evaline Ross was born in 1901 to Sarah A Ross and George Ross in Wentworth County.
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On the 1911 census is Evyln Ross, born April 1901.  Living with mother Sarah and brother Royal and sister Pearl.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

Could this be Ernest's wife?
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In 1901, Ross family members were machinists and boiler makers.
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 October 09 06:59 UTC (UK) »

I don't have further information, but a Pearl Mercaline Ross married a Mr. Finlayson (Wentworth County).  Her parents were George and Sarah Ross.
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Re: Arthur Ernest George Harris
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 07 November 09 06:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi Everyone,  Smiley
Sorry for the delay in writing.This looks like the right people obviously the stories got embroidered over the years in regards to where they came from like most records, they changed to suit themselves with what they put in census's etc.
I would love to find out where they landed up as I believe it was Long Island  Huh Huh Smiley
Thank you for your help in finding these people.
Cheers Jacquie
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