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shan42
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How far sideways do you go?
« on: Sunday 04 October 09 14:59 UTC (UK) »

I've done alot of direct ancestors, and have now begun to add their siblings... where to stop though!
I won't be doing step-ggg grandmothers etc, nor relatives' siblings' weddings etc.  Grin
How far sideways of your main tree do you/have you research(ed)?
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 October 09 15:03 UTC (UK) »

For me, I go sideways if I find something interesting that I fancy pursuing.


I was one day idley doing a tree for a second cousin (is that right ?  We share the same gr.grandmother ?)  ... and followed her line back quite a way ... she's Canadian.  Then, lo and behold, I find she links in with my fathers mothers mothers line way back ...

So I now certainly have a look at those not in a straight line from me ... you never know what you might find !    But its time consuming ...
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shan42
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 October 09 15:08 UTC (UK) »

Well 'they' do say we're all related if we go back 7 generations - that's a bit hard to get my head round, what about the next generation down?
*scratches head*
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 October 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »

i add siblings of my direct line and their children and partner, in the partners notes i will make a note of their parentage and maybe siblings but i dont actually put these in my tree, it just helps to refer to if for example a child of my direct lines sibling was living with them at one point. I then come downwards to the present day - after all we are all related.
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 October 09 15:17 UTC (UK) »

I go a long way sideways, but indirectly, if you know what I mean  Roll Eyes

It started because I couldn't get back very far on most of my lines (being too poor to get into most records and not criminal enough to get in the others....), so I started trying to make sense of things by going back up the tree as far as I could get and then tracing all their descendants back down again. (I don't trace anyone unrelated)  I have to say it has been much more rewarding than just going directly up a tree.  Partly because, as for Lydart, I've been able to link back into the tree several times (I'm related to one second cousin by 4 different routes!)

The other reason is because genealogy has turned into social history research. When you look at complete families and sets of families in a period, you learn all sorts of things about how the society worked and how people coped in that framework and what people did to survive etc

I've found it completely fascinating  Grin  Gets a bit upsetting though when people think that I'm 'name collecting' because I'm not just hunting back in a straight line. However, probably better not reopen that one - it seems to cause a lot of bad feeling !  Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed Lips Sealed
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 October 09 15:21 UTC (UK) »

Its not name collecting I go for, I should have said ... I'm much more interested in their lives ... for e.g. I found my grandfather had been a Liberal councillor in London; granny was once a Lyons 'Nippy' and a suffragist; further back there's a convict; a minister in the church ... all grist to the mill for further exploration in social history, which is MUCH more interesting than just lists of names !
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 October 09 15:24 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Angela & Toni.
Toni yes I've done some of that too - (still trying to make sense of my notes!  Grin )

Angela that's a really good idea, I've already started coming back down one line, as there's a 100 year gap between 2 marriages of 2 families, which interests me - mine were in the same area for a long time, so probably the other family were too - that's one of my next lines of interest. I never looked at it in the way you explained though, thanks!  Smiley
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 October 09 16:45 UTC (UK) »

I started going sideways when I found I was 'related' [by marriage] to Rudyard Kipling, Edward Burne-Jones [artist] and Stanley Baldwin.

If I smell something of interest, I'm off! collecting obscure cousins x times removed on the way.

I have them in my records, but dont put them on the tree otherwise the tree would fall over.
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 October 09 17:34 UTC (UK) »

I go sideways quite a lot because it can often throw light on your direct family - especially if they're all still concentrated in one village or area.

If they move away then that tends to be the end of my research...

But why should anyone care about 'name collecting'? Apart from the fact it's a bit annoying on Ancestry to see a green leaf and excitedly click on it find yet another person who has simply copied your own data to a distant relative of their own tree with nothing that's of remote help to yourself LOL!

Oh, and it can be annoying on Genes when you get matches for these distant twigs - especially when you get someone contact you about one of your remote twigs and you feel a bit guilty so you spend several hours researching them so you've got something worthwhile to tell them Tongue

Must get round to putting a direct line only tree onto Genes come to think of it...
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 October 09 19:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have traced one branch of my family [with a lot of help from others] back to 1650 as they lived in two small hamlets within half a mile of each other.  As eveyone in the parish records for these two seem to be related to me I have managed to move down with siblings from that time to the present day.  This makes some people on the tree my 8th and 9th cousins.

Another side of my tree stops at the wedding of my gr grandfather in 1879 because I cannot find him or any of his family prior to this date.

I do not add anyone to my tree until I have a definite source for them in parish records, bmd records etc and all of the sources are in my working database and in my paper files but not on my tree when I have gedcomed it to Ancestry etc.   I do not add the parents, siblings etc of anyone who is only related to me through a marriage but they maybe listed in the census return source if they were living with that person on that date.  If my relative dies and then their spouse remarries, this event is added as a note and not as an additional person.

If anything contacts me and asks where I found the information I am more than pleased to share it with them.

Everyone who creates a tree does so in a slightly different way to the next person which makes their tree as unique as the individuls in that tree and as such there is no right or wrong way to do it.  I don't have any issues with so called "number crunchers" as I know my tree is correct, if their's isn't then they only have themselves to live with, and it doesn't infringe on my research.

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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 05 October 09 12:22 UTC (UK) »

I meander down the paths that look interesting. If I didn't I would never have discovered this gentleman http://www.emidy.com/who was the gt grandfather of my 3xgt grandmother's brother's wife.

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shan42
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 05 October 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »

Blimey MM...he's a find!!!  Cheesy How on earth did you manage to root him out with all his travelling etc?
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 October 09 13:21 UTC (UK) »

That's a lucky find !   And very interesting ...
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 October 09 13:32 UTC (UK) »

It's amazing - fancy having a connection to him, however tenuous!

Most interesting that he was as accepted as much he was in that period too, to the extent of marrying a local girl  Grin

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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 October 09 17:57 UTC (UK) »

I hasten to add that I haven't actually added him to my tree (that would be name collecting  Wink).  I only followed the branch because I was having trouble reconciling my 3x gt grandmother's details with those of her brother.  I ended up with his marriage certificate to confirm he was, in fact, her brother and then it was a case of "what an odd surname, I wonder where it came from?"
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