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Ann Baker
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 01:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi all

As far sideways as I need to to get info I need. I've found loads from going sideways that I wouldn;t have found just sticking with the direct line - such as the fact some of them moved around a bit which I found out from researching siblings. Aklso sometimes the 'one' isn;t there but the siblings are for some strange reason - maybe the 'one' knows is their turn.

I have also found as well as reasearching the family a wealth of social history which makes it well worth the effort of going sideways!

Sideways always!

Ann Smiley
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 08:07 UTC (UK) »

Sometimes I get carried away and go too far sideways but then I think that while they may be only distantly related to me they would be people my ancestors would've known.
It's also interesting when you trace the marriages for the sisters of those in the direct line and then look at the censuses and see how many families on a page are related or that people listed with a family as lodgers or even servants turn out to be nieces or nephews.
(not very eloquent but it's the best I can manage before coffee  Grin)
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 09:21 UTC (UK) »

I have had great results with going sideways and finding distant cousins even half cousins.  After all, these people shared some common forebear.  My 'new' contacts have given me some great information on my gr gr's etc in the form of biographies, personal stories and artifacts.  It can be pure luck how a family bible or christening robe is handed down.  I think it has been mutual sharing of information as the person who is 'minder' of the family the bible or whatever may  well be the person with similar interest.

Nowadays with ease of copying material such as photos, it  encourages people to share.
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 09:36 UTC (UK) »

I just had one of those odd moments ... saw the avatar, and thought I'd written what you had !
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 09:52 UTC (UK) »

My tree goes so far sideways if i had to print it out it would circumnavigate the world 3 times!  lol

Slight exaggeration there but like some of you, i find someone interesting and just have to find out as much as possible about them.

I started to "do" my aunts tree because my maternal uncle told me she was related to Lloyd George, umm!   not found him yet though but the journey has proved interesting so far.

Another family story was we had a Spanish Princess in the tree and she lived in Pocklington, Yorkshire.   Turns out her mother had read a romance novel and named her after the heroine...hehe!

It's not about the number of names is it?  it's about the journey that leads you there.
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 10:05 UTC (UK) »

It's also interesting when you trace the marriages for the sisters of those in the direct line and then look at the censuses and see how many families on a page are related or that people listed with a family as lodgers or even servants turn out to be nieces or nephews.

I would never have found one of my gt grandfathers in 1891 if I hadn't done this. He turned up living with his father's married sister, horribly mistranscribed and with his age as 2 instead of 21!
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 10:41 UTC (UK) »


 horribly mistranscribed and with his age as 2 instead of 21!

That sounds a terrible fate!!  Grin  You sound like you're a bit of a clever sleuth MM!
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 12:17 UTC (UK) »

You have to get used to assuming anything and everything on transcriptions might be (and often is !) wrong !   

Lots of lateral thinking needed !
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »

Oh yes - I'm learning that Lydart!!  Grin
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 08 October 09 13:36 UTC (UK) »

I've done the same as AngelaR - since all my direct lines are in Ireland, most of them stick at 1820 - 1850ish. (try looking for Patrick Murphy!!)

So, I've gone back as far as possible, and traced down from there to my 3rd, 4th cousins. I've managed to get in touch with some of OH's distant relatives, but not mine yet.
( I want to find William Edward Gray and his off-spring - they might have g-grandparents pictures, willed to them by great-aunt Mary)

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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 08 October 09 18:31 UTC (UK) »

Yep! I've gone sideways a bit.

I started with my paternal side, they stemmed from Ireland, so I got stuck at about 1800. I figured that wasn't a tree, more like a shrub, so I came forward which meant going sideways.

Now I span the world with cousins  Cool
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Ann Baker
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 09 October 09 00:57 UTC (UK) »

Sidweays is great!

I found folks all over world by going sideways and the great thing is they have been able to put namjes to photos I have but had no idea who they were - except they were related somehow because they came from my granny's house.

Ireland is hard - that was what really pushed me into going sideways and so glad I did. I have met cousins in Oz who gave me a whole load of info. Found folks in Canada and US  just by going a roundabout way to go forwards.

Love it - sideways is good!

Ann Grin
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 22:12 UTC (UK) »

The more twigs a branch makes.  You could always split them into trees and make a woodland.
sorry......
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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 19 November 09 01:13 UTC (UK) »

My tree is as broad as it is tall lol.

I love the social history of families as much as just the names so I do get a little carried away sometimes.

For instance, my dad was an only child - but I knew form family photos his mum had a LOT of siblings - lol so many it took me years to name them all & I am still searching for info on one of them!

On the 1911 cencus my nana is shown living with her parents & 6 siblings - plus her granny and a cousin ................. along with a visiting uncle & a 2nd Cousin.
From this I could tell the family were very close & the different parts of the family used to living together.

Going back a cencus to to 1901 I had an extended family along with relatives living next door, and children & spouses living with the parents ........................ LOADS of family names for me!

When I put together all the family and worked out the relationships it became clear gt-gt-granny had a HUGE unusual family................so I looked further into it - she had 15 children - including THREE sets of Twins..............so of course I had to find out if they all survived, and married - lol, thats where it all got complicated, cos it seemed they all loved mum a lot -  almost all of them named a child for her in one way or another !!!!!

4 generations of one family & I have almost 100 names of family members - plus spouses etc ........... lol the tree sometimes seems to be more twigs than branches!

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Re: How far sideways do you go?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 19 November 09 04:07 UTC (UK) »

Yes, I definitely research sideways, for these reasons:
1) When you come up against a brick wall, going sideways can sometimes neatly sidestep it.
2) Going sideways can also provide connections to others researching connected families, and can throw up interesting leads you'd never have discovered.
3) Sometimes sideways can just be so gosh darn interesting!
Do I add these sideways links to my tree? No further than lineal ancestors' siblings and their partners. So far.
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