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Topic: Anyone know Cheveley? (Read 393 times)
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Jamaine
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I have found from the CWGC website that a civilian relative was killed in the village of Cheveley in 1942, presumably in some kind of enemy action:-
RATTLE, ALICE JANE
Initials: A J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 58
Date of Death: 28/07/1942
Additional information: of 4 Jesus Lane. Daughter of William and Harriet Elizabeth Last, of Stonham Aspall, Suffolk; widow of Alfred Rattle, of Cheveley, Suffolk. Died at 4 Jesus Lane.
I have been unable to find Jesus lane on Google maps and wondered if anyone who knows the area can help locate it.
Thanks in advance - John
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Selina
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Hi Jamaine,
Jesus Lane is in Cambridge. I have just looked at my 1930/31 Cambridge Street directory (the closest one I have to the War) and Mrs. A.J. Rattle is listed as living at No. 4 Jesus Lane, Cambridge.
So that was her home address and she died there, I don't recall ever hearing of any bomb damage to Jesus Lane so assume she was probably injured elsewhere.
I will have a look at what records I have to see if I can see a burial and will get back to you if I find anything.
Selina
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Selina
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Can't see anything else of use, perhaps she was buried with her husband so maybe Cheveley.
Local paper (then the Cambridge Daily News) probably would throw more light on things - archives held at the Cambridgeshire Collection, Central Library, Cambridge but not available online.
Selina
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Jamaine
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Thank you very much Selina, that would explain why I could not find the address in Cheveley...
Following your help I found a fascinating document about Jesus Lane on the Cambridge website, where number 4 is shown as Grade 2 listed. I also found this:-
1942: Bombs fell on the Union Society, the Round Church, houses in Jesus Lane and Portugal Place and Whewell's Court, Trinity.
In all 15 bombs fell on the town during the war. Mill Road railway bridge was also hit. An abandoned Wellington bomber hit houses in Histon Road
From this, I guess that Alice moved to Cambridge after her husband Alfred died. As you say she may well be buried back there.
I will contact the archives and post a look up request for the paper (we are on the south coast) and see if that brings anything up.
Thanks once again for your help, it is greatly appreciated 
John
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Selina
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I had forgotten about the bomb damage to the Union Society, there are photos of that, I have seen them.
No. 4 Jesus Lane was that end of Jesus Lane and on that side too so probably damaged.
If you don't get any responses to your enquiries I will try and have a look for the paper when I next get down to the City Centre.
Selina
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Jamaine
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Thank you for that Selina 
I found some newspaper cuttings on the Cambridge Union Society website http://www.cus.org/photo_gallery/19
Although the date shown is slightly later, these raids are mentioned as killing three people and this ties up with the CWGC register for Cambridge Civil Dead on the 28/7/1942. Namely Alice Rattle, Bessie Johnson & Effraim Nahum, at 4 Jesus Lane, 4 St Clements Gardens & 13a Ram Yard respectively.
John
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Selina
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Hi John.
Just in case this comes in useful:-
The burial of Alice Jane Rattle does not appear on the surname index of the St. Mary, Cheveley Parish Register CD (goes up to 1950). For the same Church the only two mentions of an Alfred Rattle is a burial listed in 1921 aged 58 and a baptism of Alfred Lancelot Ewart Rattle on 24 July 1898 son of Alfred and Eliz otp blacksmith born 27 May 1898 of 1898.
Selina
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Jamaine
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Hi Selina,
Thank you very much for that, I must admit that I am a little mystified now about Alice's husband Alfred.
The only candidate that I can find is the Alfred that you mention (PS thanks for the 'Ewart', I only had the intial), but the trouble is that he died in 1948, so she could not have been a widow as stated on CWGC register.
That is of course if the register is correct. I now am wondering where the information came from (listed as 'the civil war dead') and when if it was compiled after 1948. I am at a loss to think of any other reason.
The Alfred who was buried in 1921 would have been the father of Alfred, possibly the father-in-law of Alice?
Thanks once again, greatly appreciated - John
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Selina
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Hi again John,
I was in the middle of writing this when I got called out for short notice baby sitting and only just got back!
Baptism at St. Mary, Cheveley
1919 January 5 Douglas William Rattle son of Alfred and Alice Jane otp fitter.
Marriage at St. Paul's Church, Hills Road, Cambridge
1940 September 2
Rattle Douglas William 22 bac RAF of South Wales son of Alfred (deceased)
Lewis Evelyn Beatrice 20 sp of 90 Barton Rd dau of George Edward college servant
Witnesses: Ashley John Lewis and Vera Ethel Rolph
So that puts Alfred's death pre September 1942.
Selina
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Selina
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Correction _ death of Alfred should read pre September 1940
Selina
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Selina
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Hi John,
I don't think you should discount the Alfred that died in 1921 as being the husband of Alice just yet! I appreciate that the age difference would have been considerable.
In my 1930/31 directory it is Alice listed at 4 Jesus Lane not Alfred, although if it were a University lodging house (and many were in Jesus Lane) this would not be unusual as it was often the woman that ran them.
Also in the 1911 census Alfred born circa 1864 is a builder's fitter, half matching the description on Douglas' marriage entry. He was married to an Elizabeth and had a family, I can send you details if you don't have access and if you think it applicable.
An Elizabeth Rattle was buried Chevely in 1916 aged 53, wife of A (it does not give his full name on the transcript)
Perhaps you could post on the Suffolk board to see if anyone has access to the Parish Reg to get the age of Alfred when he married Alice in 1917.
Anyway I will leave this with you but think it worth bearing in mind.
Selina
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Jamaine
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Thanks Selina,
I must admit that you present quite a convincing argument here
The Elizabeth who died in 1916 aged 53 fits exactly to that of Elizabeth Garnham who married Alfred in 1885...
... and the bmd record shows Douglas's mother's surname as Last.
If you have the 1911 census entry to hand then that would be appreciated, but don't buy it just on my account.
Yep, you idea about the Suffolk board is good, many many thanks for all your help.
John
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Selina
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Sent you a p.m. John.
Selina
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Jamaine
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Well Selina, it looks like you were right
I got to the Principle Probate Registry in Holborn yesterday just too late to get Alfred's will on a one hour service. But I ordered it and will be sent by post (how long that will take is anyone's guess at the moment  )
However the entry in the Calender book showed Alice Jane's name, so i am very hopefull now...
Thanks once again - John
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Selina
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Good idea to look for a Will, I often forget that.
Looks like it will provide an answer regarding the marriage. Hope you don't have to wait to long is suspense!
I meant to ask if you wanted all the bapts, marrs and burs from the Cheveley register? Also it looks like the son of Alice and Alfred stayed in Cambridge and died there in 2002 (expect you have Ancestry?) He is in Kelly's until their last edition in 1975 and I could let you have the address if it is of any interest.
Selina
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