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k182
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It can be sad.
« on: Sunday 04 October 09 19:15 UTC (UK) »

Hello Smiley

I didn't think it would be so sad when you find familes that just have nothing.
I haven't been doing this for long and was so eager to see how they lived and where. I didnt think I would end up crying over people that I didn't know.

Does this happen to anyone else or is it just me?
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 October 09 19:45 UTC (UK) »

all of us at some point

I cried when I found my first ancestor in the workhouse in 1901.  He was 74 and was probably in the hospital part but it still made me cry.

The worst [althought there maybe more to come] was when I found a gr aunt had lost 5 children in 4 years due to consumption.

In a way its why we do this, we find out the truth and so they will never be forgotten.
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 October 09 20:06 UTC (UK) »

My 'moment' was finding out the names of the true parents of my relation who was a foundling, something he would never have known in his own lifetime.  I wished I could have had him back for one day to let him know who his mum was; what I can do now is pass on the information in my tree for the future.  Grin
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 October 09 20:12 UTC (UK) »

Hello Smiley

I didn't think it would be so sad when you find familes that just have nothing.
I haven't been doing this for long and was so eager to see how they lived and where. I didnt think I would end up crying over people that I didn't know.

Does this happen to anyone else or is it just me?

LOL Sheesh yes!

I have cried buckets over my lot over the years!

I am terrible in Churchyards, i even cry over complete strangers graves if the inscription is particularly sad! ............ and if they are one of 'mine' I am terrible!

I do get very involved with some of my families stories - my dads gt-grandma has realy got to me - she had (at least) 15 children - that I have found so far - and in there she had 3 sets of Fraternal male/female twins, but lost a lot of her children before adulthood, and one of her twins giving birth to her 1st grandchild............ for some reason Margaret and her family realy got to me.

Gaille
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shan42
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 October 09 20:19 UTC (UK) »

I think it's sad that my family were all just one step away from poverty and had to work hard, long days for apittance. Mind you we've always been skint!
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 October 09 20:22 UTC (UK) »

That is what gets to me - the infant mortality rate.  Seven babies born, seven babies die....  And then I find a family with a clutch of healthy children and my heart is in my mouth with each census to find out if they are okay or not.  And then I watch as the children leave home, go into service, marry and have children of their own.  And then without warning, their parents are in the workhouse, and I start crying all over again.

Oh dear (grabbing hankie) and this is the Lighter Side?!

Greensleeves, trying to pull herself together....
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 October 09 20:53 UTC (UK) »

My saddest is my gt grandfather who was born just a few months after his father died. This little boy lived his whole life without a father. Think of what he missed!!

His mother supported all four children on her own throughout their lives. She never remarried. That must have been hard too.

Paul
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 October 09 21:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone

This has got me with a lump in my throat!

Some of my saddest moments were my gg grandfather who was still working as a docker in his 70's and another who was listed in the 1871 census as a pauper in the workhouse but the one who really got to me was my grandmother who's father died 3 months before she was born. I recently found out he died when he fell down the steps of a cellar and his wife also brought their children up on her own.

Makes you realise when you find out how hard their lives were how lucky we are today.....

Kim
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shan42
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 October 09 21:30 UTC (UK) »

Awww you lot!  Cry

It did make me sad to see my gg grandad was working as a labourer aged 75, and another gg grandad ended up moving away to London quite late in life after the kids were all married, then Mrs gg grandad died and he lived alone for the next few years till he died in his mid 70s  Cry
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 October 09 21:35 UTC (UK) »

Hello all, I had just read this thread when I decided to try to find a missing cousin in my tree..... I googled his name in quotes and was totally shocked to see that he is on the War Graves Commission's list of World War II deaths.  I am still in shock.  Cry Pat
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 October 09 21:35 UTC (UK) »

The world turns in a funny way doesn't it when the government has recently decreed that companies CAN force their employees to retire at 65  Sad
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Gaille
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 October 09 23:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone

This has got me with a lump in my throat!

 Some of my saddest moments were my gg grandfather who was still working as a docker in his 70's and another who was listed in the 1871 census as a pauper in the workhouse but the one who really got to me was my grandmother who's father died 3 months before she was born. I recently found out he died when he fell down the steps of a cellar and his wife also brought their children up on her own.

Makes you realise when you find out how hard their lives were how lucky we are today.....

Kim

Ohhh I forgot about gt-gt-grandad !

I have him on every single cencus from 1841 to 1911, and he will be on 1921 when it comes out

On the 1911 he was aged in his 70s still working as an AgLab as he had since he was a young boy - I have him working aged 12 on the 1851 cencus .............. he survived over 65 years working out n all weathers .......... and died in 1922.

His death Cert says he died of 'Lack of nourishment & Malaise following the sudden death of his daughter" ...........

His Daughther, my gt-grandma, died on the operating table 2 months before him, my grandads step-mum who knew both of them told us once that he 'died of a broken heart' after she died, she was his youngest daughter and by all accounts he adored her.

Seems so sad that he survived over 60 years working as an AgLab to die in such sad circumstances.

Gaille
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Cheshire Crewe – Bate(s) / Bebbington
Shropshire Wellington, Wobwell – Smith
Walsall Midds – Smith

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Mc'Rea/McCrea – Ireland to Cheshire

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any relatives of Margaret Bibby married to Thomas Smith all over country
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 October 09 05:39 UTC (UK) »

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Ohhh I forgot about gt-gt-grandad !

I have him on every single cencus from 1841 to 1911, and he will be on 1921 when it comes out

On the 1911 he was aged in his 70s still working as an AgLab as he had since he was a young boy - I have him working aged 12 on the 1851 cencus .............. he survived over 65 years working out n all weathers .......... and died in 1922.

His death Cert says he died of 'Lack of nourishment & Malaise following the sudden death of his daughter" ...........

His Daughther, my gt-grandma, died on the operating table 2 months before him, my grandads step-mum who knew both of them told us once that he 'died of a broken heart' after she died, she was his youngest daughter and by all accounts he adored her.

Seems so sad that he survived over 60 years working as an AgLab to die in such sad circumstances.

Gaille
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Crikey Gaille, poor fella, it makes you want to weep for them doesn' t it? very very sad - as I said before, makes you realise how lucky we are today.

Kim
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 October 09 07:29 UTC (UK) »

On one branch of the tree, I had a family of 7 in the 1841 census.
They all died within 2 years of each other, [probably cholera or some such]
Doesnt say cause in PR

Then there is a family of 6 living in a one up,one down [4 other families living in the same house]

One woman commits suicide by hanging after her husband died at sea in WW1, leaving 2 children who both died in WW2.

There are probably more if only I had the time and money to investigate census returns, death certs etc.

All part of the unsewn rich tapestry of history
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Re: It can be sad.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 October 09 07:49 UTC (UK) »

i shudded when i found out my 2 x great grandfathers mam and dad died when he was 4 and he was placed in the poor house then after further reserch i discoverd he and
his sister were the only 2 to reach adulthood out of 8 kids.
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