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Mike from Leicester
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Re: Orton on the Hill marriages c.1800: Olner, Wm.
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 23:13 UTC (UK) »

Greeting’s Again Jeannie 1000cc

Your Quote in your post No’ 13. on this thread :~

In case you are curious, these are the entries I found for Grimes christenings, Ashby-de-la-Zouch, 1814-1872, FHS ref 0883942:

Mary, chr. 9 oct 1814, d. of Thomas Grimes and Ann
William, chr. 29 Sep 1816, s. of Thomas Grimes and Ann
Lucy Ann, chr. 20 Sep 1818, d. of Thomas Grimes and Ann (death or burial 30 Apr 1820)
Priscilla, chr. 1 Apr 1823, d. of Thomas Grimes and Sarah
Ann, chr. 12 Jun 1829, d. of John Grimes and Mary
Hastings, chr. 10 Sep 1843, s. of Priscilla Grimes.

Unquote…

I would say going on the above information on Priscilla…..
Along with the more true age from her Burial Record Aged. 24.
( Born 1822)
Plus that of the Census returns for 1841.
Were Priscilla was down as age 15.
 But actual aged would have been 19.

( remembering my directions to you…..
 re ages on the 1841 Census returns
Were….Anyone over the age of 15 was rounded DOWN to the nearest multiple of 5)

Then I would say Priscilla belongs to Thomas Sarah…..

MIKE.
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Re: Orton on the Hill marriages c.1800: Olner, Wm.
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 29 October 09 00:38 UTC (UK) »

Greetings and Salutations again, Mike,

Thanks for your reply.  Grin

I agree with your conclusion: Priscilla belonging to Thomas & Sarah...

But what I was wondering, was: is Thomas' marriage to Sarah his second? Priscilla was christened just short of a year after the burial of my ancestor Ann Grimes, and Thomas' age given on the 1841/1851 with wife Sarah matches age given at marriage with Ann and his death/burial (more or less), so I thought there was a chance it was my ancestor Thomas in a second marriage... Embarrassed

In any case, no worries, just a thought  Wink

Jeannie  Smiley
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BUDD, PAGE - Staffs; RICHARDSON, HUTT, MIDDLETON, NEAL - Warks; OLNER, GRIMES, GOODMAN - Leics; MATTHEWS - Salop
Mike from Leicester
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Re: Orton on the Hill marriages c.1800: Olner, Wm.
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 29 October 09 23:05 UTC (UK) »

Greeting’s Again. …Jeannie.

I have had an in depth look at the Records Office today.
At those Grimes / Grymes events you found
via the I. G. I………..

St: Helen's. Parish Church.
Ashby de la Zouch.

Registers read thus :~


 1814. ….. Entry No’ 222…… 9th.October.
  Mary.  Daughter. of Thomas and Ann .Grimes.
Abode…Ashby de la Zouch.
Occupation….Labourer……..R. H. Lloyd. Curate.

1816. Entry No’. 441.  29th. September.
William, Son. of Thomas and Ann Grimes.
Abode. ..Ashby de la Zouch.
Occupation….Wool Comber. ….W.H. Douall. Vicar.

1818. Entry No’. 688……20th. September.
Lucy Ann. Daughter. of Thomas and Ann Grimes.
Abode. Ashby de la Zouch.
Occupation. ….Wool Comber. ….W.H. Douall. Vicar.
You have the full burial details…..30th. April. 1820.

MARRIAGE. 1822..

Page. 97.
Entry No’. 289.

Thomas GRYMES. Of this Parish.
Sarah Robinson. Of this Parish.

Were married in this Church by Banns.
This Sixth Day of July.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty Two.

By Me:~ Francis Orton. Curate.

Thomas signed the register by his own signature.
Sarah by her Mark. …+
In the presence of :~

Richard Cheatle.
Ann Townsend….by her Mark. ….X. 

BAPTISMS :~    

1823. Entry No’. 1235….1st. April.
Priscilla, Daughter of Thomas and Sarah Grimes.
Abode. ..Ashby de la Zouch.
Occupation. ….Wool Comber. ….W.H. Douall. Vicar.

1843. Entry. No. 411. ...10th. September.

Hastings. Son of Priscilla GRYMES.
Abode. Ashby de la Zouch.
Occupation…..A Single Woman……Maraduke  Vasasons. Vicar.

Hope this of help ?

Wool Comber   :~ Worked machinery combing - separating - fibres for spinning 

MIKE.
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Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.
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(Completed) Orton on the Hill marriages c.1800: Olner, Wm.
« Reply #33 on: Friday 30 October 09 02:02 UTC (UK) »

Greetings & Good morning, Mike,

The details of your findings are very interesting! As another wise RootsChatter once told me "it's all guesswork in the end", but nonetheless the more detail the better!  Grin

I will draw my own conclusions, but as the registers indicate the marriage date a few months after Ann (Goodman) Grimes' death, the common occupation of the father, and Priscilla in the same Cemetary, etc... Wink

I am asking this post to be moved as I feel I have mayhaps extrapolated a bit much, and corresponding with you has been so pleasant... Cheesy

With most sincere thanks,
Until next time,  Smiley
Jeannie
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BUDD, PAGE - Staffs; RICHARDSON, HUTT, MIDDLETON, NEAL - Warks; OLNER, GRIMES, GOODMAN - Leics; MATTHEWS - Salop
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