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pigginnut
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Westoning Parish records - HINDES
« on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:25 UTC (UK) »

Please does anyone have access to Westoning parish records

I have a John Hindes  born abt 1800 Westoning Bedfordshire

I have him on 1841 with a Susan I am assuming is his wife as she is same sort of age and 3 children Thomas Henrey and Martha.  In 1851 he is down as a widower
in 1861 he is remarried to Sarah Bunyan his sons sister in law who is 21 years his junior they went on to have 3 more children  Elizabeth - Martha and Joseph
John died in 1862.

I am looking to find details of his parentage and his first marriage to susan also interested in finding out if there are any other children  than those mentioned.

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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:44 UTC (UK) »

Just checking your dates -
he remarried in 1861
went on to have 3 more children
dies in 1862

triplets?

Also if you have his fathers name and occupation from his second marriage cert it will help anyone who is able to do any parish record look up.

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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:46 UTC (UK) »

ACTUALLY I MEANT ON 1861 CENSUS HE WAS REMARRIED - THE ACTUIAL MARRIAGE TOOK PLACE IN 1853
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:50 UTC (UK) »

That's better then!
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:53 UTC (UK) »

IGI has chr of Martha Hinds 30 March 1835 Westoning, parents John and MARTHA Martindale...  I wonder if this is the family and Susan isnt the childrens mum, or is a differetn family in the village.
Also Thomas 18 Jn 1822 and Henry 27 Nov 1830 - all same parents.
They are submitted entries though, so who knows?
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:55 UTC (UK) »

I forgot to say IGI has the mother as Martha Martingdale but if thats so who was susan in 1841
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 14:57 UTC (UK) »

well I GI could be correct but I have learned to be very wary of it,  so need to prove it really - I suppose susan could have been a sister  I hate not knowing lol
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »

Westoning baptisms and marriages up to 1812 have been extracted onto the IGI, so are reliable. There are three Hindes' baptisms 1807-12, all children of Richard and Elizabeth. The only marriage of a Richard Hindes and Elizabeth in Beds was in Wootton in 1795, so it's possible these were the same couple. The IGI shows they baptised two children in Wootton as well. But no John. But these baptisms were in 1796 and 1802, so on the face of it perhaps John was actually born in Wootton.

The IGI is perfectly reliable so long as you are looking at extracted entries. Member submissions are pot luck.

There are burials in Westoning of Richard Hindes age 68 on 28 March 1831: Richard Hindes age 21 on 22 May 1832 (he was baptised in 1810); and Elizabeth Hindes age 82 on 24 Dec 1849. These are the only Hindes burials in Westoning up to 1852, so it seems as though Richard and Elizabeth were the Wootton couple

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 15:31 UTC (UK) »

Thank you David I don't have Richard and Elizabeth connected to the tree im doing yet but given the size of the place i expect they do somehow - I shall persevere with the pieces of the puzzle.  I am thinking a marriage cert may be needed to help sigh more pennies
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 06 October 09 15:40 UTC (UK) »

Richard and Elizabeth appear to have been the only Hindes family in Westoning at that time, so there's every chance they're the parents of John. But the absence of a baptism for John is a problem, but hopefully his second marriage will confirm his father.

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Westoning Parish records
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:06 UTC (UK) »

The IGI shows they baptised two children in Wootton as well. But no John.

oh yes there is ....

Hello David;  Been looking at the Wootton baptism transcript today,

Richard & Elizabeth HINDE baptised son John on 2 Sep 1798 & daughter Susan on 21 Feb 1800. The IGI only found you the children named HINDES, who were William 6/10/1796 & Joseph 30/12/1802. The IGI has the 2 HINDE baptisms, why their search process doesn't associate HINDE with HINDES is a beyond me, it does link HINE with HINDES - needs another 57 varieties I expect.

The sister Susan is not who is on the 1841 census with John, more on that later.

regards John
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Partridge - North Beds;  Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Westoning Parish records - HINDES
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:10 UTC (UK) »

oh exciting thanks 

who the devil is susan then
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Re: Westoning Parish records - HINDES
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:22 UTC (UK) »

Richard Hindes married Elizabeth Hickman at Wooton on 1 Oct 1795 by licence. The marriage licence entry says they were both over 21, both of Wootton & that Rob Simmons, a cooper from Bedford stood surety.

Two other set of HINDES parents were baptising children in Wootton at that time.

John & Martha Hindes baptised
  Sally on 22 Mar 1805,  nb. this was written above a name struck through
  Charlotte on 27 Dec 1805
  John on 9 Jan 1809
  Frederick on 18 Sept 1810, private - nb. interlined in same hand
  ** he was buried on 30 Dec 1810

Joseph & Eliz baptised
  William on 17 Apr 1805  & was buried 17 Dec 1807
  John on 27 Dec 1806
  Richard on 28 Aug 1808
  Susan on 7 Feb 1811

John Hindes married Martha Neal on 14 Jun 1805 by licence
Both were age 21, John was down as a yeoman of Wootton; & John Lineham, yeoman of Kempston stood surety

Joseph Hindes married Eliz Estwick on 5 Sept 1805

Looking at the common childrens' names I suspect that Richard, John  & Joseph Hindes are from same family but have not checked that out. 
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Partridge - North Beds;  Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Westoning Parish records - HINDES
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:28 UTC (UK) »

im agog how did i miss all that
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Re: Westoning Parish records - HINDES
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 16:31 UTC (UK) »

Westoning marriage (1)

Susannah Hindes married James Sealous ? of Flitwick on 12 Oct 1819

She may well be John's sister ? 

witness William Hindes & Joseph Chew (he appears on many marriages so most likely the parish clerk)

? Sealous is how it lookes on the entry, but James signed it as Sellis
Other entrys appear in the register of Daniel Tealous of Flitwick & Joseph Tealous signed as Tellis -     
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Partridge - North Beds;  Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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