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trish1120
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Excellent work DebbieG 
Wow what a chase that was. I am really glad you were here to help 
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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Frustrated Iban
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Hi Martin, To answer your queries -
Alfred MITCHELL was bapt. 10 Nov 1844, s/o William & Mary, Kirtlington ( where did you get 1845 from?)
Correction to the details of Elizabeth 10 May 1846 - It should read Eliza not Elizabeth !! d/o William & Mary. one further detail I noted was the entry had Middleton at the extreme right of the page - is this a sub district of Kirtlington?
Hannah MITCHELL. bapt. 21 May 1848. c/o William & Mary. Kirtlington.
Cheers , George. PS I have always been chary of Census details and relationships until after I have checked the PR's and confirmed information.
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Frustrated Iban
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Hi Debbie, Sorry, hopes shattered - not another scrap of info on the PR's other than what you have on the burials of Ann and Elizabeth.
Re the marriage - 29 Nov 1832, GOODE, William, psh of St. Martin. X NEALL, Mary, sp. o.t.p. By Banns. Witmesses: ?? REYNOLDS, Ann NEALL.
Signing off for tonight. George.
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martingraham
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To everyone - thank you for your input. I never imagined I would have such a complicated ancestry and that it could all be pieced together. Thank you for all your input.
I have now pieced all the information together, and would like to see if there are any records of Elizabeth Neal, and her potential brothers. In 1841 you have William Neil (60) Agricultural Labourer, Living with James Neil (20), John Neil (15), Isaac Neil (11)
and next door you have Mary Good (25) nee Neal (James Neal sister from previous correspondence) - Head living with son Thomas (7), and daughter Ann (5).
Does anyone have any birth records of the above that might prove the strong possible connection between James and brothers and Mary Neal. It may also shine a light on fathers / mothers name
Heres hoping
Kind regards
Martin
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Frustrated Iban
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Hi again All, Right then let's see what we have from the OMI & PR's
19 Nov 1804 William NEAL m. Elizabeth HUNT at Epwell
Children of this marriage as taken from the PR for Kirtlington. 15 May 1808, NEALL, Thomas, s William and Elizabeth 18 Nov 1810, " Mary, d " " * 6 Dec 1812 , " John s " " 27 Mar 1814, " Anne d " " 26 Sep 1817, NEAL James s " " 6 Feb 1824 , " Hannah d " " 24 Sep 1822, " John s " " 7 May1826, " Elizabeth d Mary NEAL, Lab.** 2 Mar 1828 , " Isaac s William and Elizabeth
So, it is my humble opinion, that it would appear that Mary * as above 18 Nov 1810 could very well be the mother of Elizabeth ** 7 May 1826.
As yet I still have to find the burial of the first John (6 Dec 1812).
Cheers for now, George.
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Frustrated Iban
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Me again, John NEAL was buried 2nd Jun 1813 aged 6 months. George.
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martingraham
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George - thanks - I think that proves the connection of Elizabeth with her brothers.
I've had a look at William Neale (b 1781 - from 1841 census), and tried to find death.
There are 4 deaths registered for Bicester for a William Neale in JFM 1849 OND 1849 AMJ 1850 OND 1851
I was wondering if there are any deaths in the PR for William Neal around these dates,
and indeed if there are any bap records for William Neal b circa 1781 and for his wife Elizabeth Hunt.
I am assuming that the burial record that was found by DebbieG of Elizabeth, age 52, in 1836 is the above Elizabeth, as her last child was born in 1828, and Sher does not appear in the 1841 census with William.
Thanks again for all the help.
Fingers crossed.
Martin
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Frustrated Iban
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Morning Martin, Well that is one problem resolved to your satisfaction - now for the others -
Burials Kirtlington PR's. 19 Apr 1836, NEALE, Elizabeth, aged 62 - definitely the right one. 23 Jan 1849, NEALE, William, aged 68 ( Bicester Q.1. 16 : 29).
Baptisms ? - William was not baptised in Kirtlington, nothing whatsoever on the PR's. On the LDS there is a baptism for a William NEALE, 19 Mar 1783, Bampton, Oxon. I think you need to check around for this one, sorry.
As for Elizabeth's possible dob - again on the LDS there is an Elizabeth HUNT, ch.27 Oct 1781 in Fritwell and another one ch. 10 Mar 1782 in Minster Lovell, Oxford, which could well be investigated further.
Glad to have been of help, Cheers, George.
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trish1120
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Hi All, For some reason I never got notification of the last replies  I am so glad lots of info has been found and loose ends tied up. Excellent work George and DebbieG 
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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