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DebbieG
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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 October 09 16:36 UTC (UK) »

Ok - I went back to the 1841 when James is with his father William,  in the same house is

Mary Good aged 25
Thomas Good aged 7
Ann Good aged 5

From free BMD there is a marriage June qtr 1844 Headington reg dist

of William Mitchell and one of the possible brides is Mary Good

There is a death June qtr 1848 Bicester reg dist (includes Kirtlington) of William Mitchell .

I think that Mary born 1811 (ish) is the sister of James Neal(e)  and after having a daughter Elizabeth in 1826 she married Mr Good,  he dies and she marries William Mitchell who died in 1848 (she's not lucky with her husbands).  The only problem is I can't find a marriage of Mary Neal(e) to ? Good,  it would be before 1834 as she has a 7 year old son Thomas Good in 1841.  I shall see if I can find anything else

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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 October 09 16:47 UTC (UK) »

I have found a possible first marriage for Mary

1832 29th Nov

William Goode of Sandford St Martin to Mary Neall at Kirtllington

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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 October 09 16:53 UTC (UK) »

Excellent work DebbieG Smiley Grin

Wow what a chase that was. I am really glad you were here to help Wink

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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #18 on: Friday 09 October 09 17:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Martin,
To answer your queries -

Alfred MITCHELL was bapt. 10 Nov 1844, s/o William & Mary, Kirtlington ( where did you get 1845 from?)

Correction to the details of Elizabeth  10 May 1846 - It should read Eliza not Elizabeth !! d/o William & Mary. one further detail I noted was the entry had Middleton at the extreme right of the page - is this a sub district of Kirtlington?

Hannah MITCHELL. bapt. 21 May 1848. c/o William & Mary. Kirtlington.

Cheers ,
George.
PS I have always been chary of Census details and relationships until after I have checked the PR's and confirmed information.
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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 October 09 17:16 UTC (UK) »

Ohhh George

Please could you check the details of that marriage in 1832 - cos it came from the marriage index I don't have the registers,  is there any other info?

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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #20 on: Friday 09 October 09 17:31 UTC (UK) »

and George  Wink

I have just found 2 burials in the burial index

Ann aged 50 in 1824 and Elizabeth aged 52 in 1836,  does it give anything onthem - I'm hopeing it might say Elizabeth was wife of William (60 in 1841)

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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #21 on: Friday 09 October 09 18:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi Debbie,
Sorry, hopes shattered - not another scrap of info on the PR's other than what you have on the burials of Ann and Elizabeth.

Re the marriage -
29 Nov 1832, GOODE, William, psh of St. Martin.
                   X NEALL,  Mary, sp. o.t.p. By Banns.
Witmesses: ?? REYNOLDS, Ann NEALL.   


Signing off for tonight.
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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #22 on: Monday 12 October 09 15:19 UTC (UK) »

To everyone - thank you for your input. I never imagined I would have such a complicated ancestry and that it could all be pieced together. Thank you for all your input.

I have now pieced all the information together, and would like to see if there are any records of Elizabeth Neal, and her potential brothers.
In 1841 you have William Neil (60) Agricultural Labourer, Living with James Neil (20), John Neil (15), Isaac Neil (11)

and next door you have Mary Good (25) nee Neal (James Neal sister from previous correspondence)  - Head living with son Thomas (7), and daughter Ann (5).

Does anyone have any birth records of the above that might prove the strong possible connection between James and brothers and Mary Neal. It may also shine a light on fathers / mothers name


Heres hoping


Kind regards


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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #23 on: Monday 12 October 09 17:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi again All,
Right then let's see what we have from the OMI & PR's

19 Nov 1804 William NEAL m. Elizabeth HUNT at Epwell

Children of this marriage as taken from the PR for Kirtlington.
15 May 1808, NEALL, Thomas, s William and Elizabeth
18 Nov 1810,     "       Mary,     d      "                  "         *
6 Dec 1812  ,     "        John      s      "                  "
27 Mar 1814,     "        Anne     d      "                  "
26 Sep 1817,   NEAL    James   s       "                 "
6 Feb 1824  ,     "         Hannah d      "                "
24 Sep 1822,     "         John     s       "                "
 7 May1826,   "         Elizabeth d Mary NEAL, Lab.**
2 Mar 1828  ,      "         Isaac  s William and Elizabeth


So, it is my humble opinion,  that it would appear that Mary * as above 18 Nov 1810 could very well be the mother of Elizabeth ** 7 May 1826.

As yet I still have to find the burial of the first John (6 Dec 1812).

Cheers for now,
George.
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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #24 on: Monday 12 October 09 17:37 UTC (UK) »

Me again,
John NEAL was buried 2nd Jun 1813 aged 6 months.
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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 07:36 UTC (UK) »

George - thanks - I think that proves the connection of Elizabeth with her brothers.

I've had a look at William Neale (b 1781 - from 1841 census), and tried to find death.

There are 4 deaths registered for Bicester for a William Neale in
JFM 1849
OND 1849
AMJ 1850
OND 1851

I was wondering if there are any deaths in the PR for William Neal around these dates,

and indeed if there are any bap records for William Neal b circa 1781 and for his wife Elizabeth Hunt.

I am assuming that the burial record that was found by DebbieG of Elizabeth, age 52, in 1836 is the above Elizabeth, as her last child was born in 1828, and Sher does not appear in the 1841 census with William.

Thanks again for all the help.

Fingers crossed.

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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 08:39 UTC (UK) »

Morning Martin,
Well that is one problem resolved to your satisfaction - now for the others -

Burials Kirtlington PR's.
19 Apr 1836, NEALE, Elizabeth, aged 62 - definitely the right one.
23 Jan 1849, NEALE, William, aged 68 ( Bicester Q.1. 16 : 29).

Baptisms ? - William was not baptised in Kirtlington, nothing whatsoever on the PR's.  On the LDS there is a baptism for a William NEALE, 19 Mar 1783, Bampton, Oxon. I think you need to check around for this one, sorry.

As for Elizabeth's possible dob - again on the LDS there is an Elizabeth HUNT, ch.27 Oct 1781 in Fritwell and another one ch. 10 Mar 1782 in Minster Lovell, Oxford, which could well be investigated further.

Glad to have been of help,
Cheers,
George.


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Re: Neal(e) in Kirtlington
« Reply #27 on: Friday 16 October 09 10:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi All,
For some reason I never got notification of the last replies Huh
I am so glad lots of info has been found and loose ends tied up.
Excellent work George and DebbieG Smiley

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