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Topic: Bryan Thornhill from Hemingford, Huntingdon (Read 211 times)
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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See also http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=411354.new#new to avoid duplication of effort.
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Hi Paul,
The only thing I can find is submitted record on Familysearch ( to be treated with caution until confirmed)
Bryan THORNHILL
Christened 30 July 1825, Diddington, Huntingdon, England
Parents;
GEORGE Thornhill
Charlotte Matilda GREEN
Died, 22 January 1911
Married, Sophia TUKE, 04 December 1849
Trish 
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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There is another IGI submitted record for George THORNHILL, born 1783, Diddington, died 19 May 1852, with quite a lot of info including his parents.
Georges parents;
George THORNHILL
Mary Annie HAWKINS
Mary was the daughter of Sir Ceasar Hawkins.
If this is all correct there is quite a lot of info on him if you "google" him.
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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As I said I am not sure how much of this submitted record is true but have found George/Charlotte in 1851 Census
1851 Census
Diddington House,
Diddington, Huntingdonshire
George THORNHILL, Head, mar, 67, Landed Proprietor M P, born Middlesex, London
Charlotte, Wife, mar, 60
Charlotte, daug, unm, 35
Lydia Ann, daug, unm, 30
Georgina, Daug, unm, 27
Everilda, Daug, unm, 25
William, son, 28, No cure of Souls 
Juliana PARDOE, grand-daug, 4, born Essex, Leyton
+ abt 10 Servants
Charlotte and all children born Hunts, index says Horringford, image looks like Hemingford 
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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bedfordshire boy
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He gives Hemingford as his birthplace in censuses, although Diddington is only 5 miles away.
Hemingford Abbots' baptisms are on the IGI although I'm not convinced that it's complete as it's mainly females, but there are no Thornhills. Hemingford Grey isn't on the IGI, nor has it filmed by the LDS so it would take a trip to Huntingdon Records office to see if he appears
Diddington parish register is on the BVRI, but strangely the only child of George and Charlotte Matilda Thornhill to be baptised there was Henry Jordan Thornhill on 22 Aug 1832. I wonder where those member submissions got their data from?
David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Bonjour David
As they were quite a prominent family is it possible they were private baptisms?
And these entries were taken from a Family Bible?
1841 Census
St George Hanover Square,Middlesex
HO107/733/5/St George Hanover Square
Mary THORNHILL, 50, yes
Mary Ann..., 30, no
Charles, 25, no
LYDIA..., 20, no
GEORGINA, 15, no
Obviously they keep 2 houses Hunts/London. Cant find Bryan 1841 (away in Army?) or parents (overseas?)
1861 Cenus Charlotte is back in St George Hanover Square with unmarried daughters. Birth palce now St Fers, Hunts
RG9/43/6/5
Trish
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bedfordshire boy
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G'day Trish
I see the entry on the IGI for Henry Jordan Thornhill is a birth on 25 July 1832, which would tie in with a baptism on 22 August. So it does look as though the submitter had access to some private papers. Not sure about private baptisms though, as these are usually then entered into the parish register, with a note "privately".
David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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trish1120
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Hi David,
Thank you for that info
I just noticed Paul is from New Zealand in his profile. Whilst googling for Thornhill info I found this which may or may not be related;
"google"
Janus, Letters from the Thornhill Family in New Zealand.
There are also papers from the Thornhill Collection held in the Hunts Archives. The last Thornhill ( Noel) died without issue in 1956 and the papers donated.
The Thornhills originated in Fixby, Yorkshire and arrived in Diddington abt 1730.
They held estates and houses in ;
Boxwith, Cambridgeshire
Dowdyke Hall, Lincolnshire
Oxfordshire, Huntingdon, Offord Darcy, Southoe, Duloe
London, Bread St, Holloway, Angel Islington
A fitting posting for my 3000th as I have no Gentry in my line 
Cheers,
Trish
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bedfordshire boy
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......... as I have no Gentry in my line
You have! It's just that you haven't got back far enough yet to have found them. They're there just waiting for you!
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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Paul Street
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Trish,
I had a look into the meaning of "No Cure of Souls" (next to your post for William Thornhill in 1851) and found the following:
"The man concerned was a cleric or clergyman of the Church of England. He
held the educational qualification of "Master of Arts" (A.M.; or today
often termed M.A.) and was therefore most likely a graduate of Oxford or
Cambridge University. "No Cure of souls" means that he was not at that time
appointed to a position in any parish; either as a Curate, Vicar etc. To
hold a "Cure of souls" is to have the care of souls - to be in spiritual
charge of parishioners."
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DEVON/1999-11/0942310772
The article then refers to some published alumni lists for Cambridge and sure enough it is online and I found William.
http://www.archive.org/stream/p2alumnicantabri06univuoft#page/174/mode/2up
Has a lot of good info, including birth/death date, who he married etc.
Paul
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