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Denise McKenna
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GARDINER William James - Look Up
« on: Friday 09 October 09 03:36 UTC (UK) »

May I please request a look up when time permits?

Surname: GARDINER
Given Names: William James
Sex: Male
Father: UNKNOWN
Mother: GARDINER HELEN [NO FURTHER DETAILS]
Event B: Dutchworth Herefordshire England
Year: UNKNOWN
Event D: Ballarat Victoria Australia
Year: 06.08.1862
Age: 36 Years
Event M: Geelong Victoria Australia
Year: 30.05.1857
Age: 29
Spouse: Rose Hannah GAGER
Age: 36

Surname: Gager
Given Names: Rose Hannah
Sex: Female
Father: GAGER John Horatio Whitesmith [NO FURTHER DETAILS]
Mother: COOK Hannah [NO FURTHER DETAILS]
Event B: England Newport Pagnell Buckingham Shire
Year: UNKNOWN
Event D: UNKNOWN
Event 2ND M: Ballarat Victoria Australia
Year: UNKNOWN
AGE: UNKNOWN
Spouse: NEILSON William

Children [NOT CONFIRMED]

Surname: GARDINER
Given Names: William John
Sex: Male
Event B: Ballarat Victoria Australia
Year: 28.02.1858
Event D: UNKNOWN
Event M: UNKNOWN

Surname: GARDINER
Given Names: Thomas Thompson
Sex: Male
Event B: Ballarat Victoria Australia
Year: 24.09.1860
Event D: UNKNOWN
Event M: UNKNOWN

Best wishes, Denise McKenna.
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CaroleW
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 October 09 12:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi

What kind of a lookup?  Census/BMD/Parish records etc

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Denise McKenna
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 October 09 18:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi CaroleW,

Looking for BDM please.

I very much appreciate your help in my quest to conquer yet another stumbling block.

Anything else relevant you may come across in your search, I'd be more than happy to except too!

Thank you.

Best wishes, Denise McKenna.

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CaroleW
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 October 09 19:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi

This is a submitted IGI entry so tread cautiously with the details.  It's an indication that somebody else is researching the same family

John Horatio Gager   Birth:  1795 Buckingham  Spouse:  Hannah Cook   
Marriage:  15 DEC 1820 Buckingham
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Denise McKenna
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi CaroleW,

Thank you for John Horatio Gager and Hannah Cook's details.

Looking for their son GARDINER William James of Dutchworth Herefordshire England Birth Details please?

Looking for GARDINER William James [Spouse] GAGER Rose Hannah of Newport Pagnell Buckingham Shire England Birth and Death Details also please?

I am curious as to what a IGI entry is and the reason why I need to tread cautiously with the details? It's a private record for My Family Tree Chart and to share with other Family Members only. An indication that somebody else is researching the same family is a good thing right, not something I should be concerned about? Sorry, I am a little puzzled by your comment?

Any feedback would be appreciated. Best wishes, Denise McKenna.
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CaroleW
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Denise

The record is on the IGI (International Genealogical Index) at www.familysearch.org

Submitted entries to the IGI often contain inaccuracies as they are somebody else's version of events - not always properly researched and checked against records.  In a lot of submitted entries - the information is just a "guesstimate"

This is why I always issue a cautionary note when quoting from a submitted entry - it has absolutely nothing to do with why you want the info or what you intend doing with it.  We all want our family history to be as accurate as possible

Extracted records are transcribed from the original records and are most times far more accurate

From the information you have given - there is a discrepancy in William's birthyear between his age when he married and when he died 3yrs later

It also looks as though he may have been illegitimate as no fathers name is shown

Both William and Rose were born before 1837 which is when Civil Registration was introduced in England

This means that any birth/baptismal entries will only be found in parish records.  It is transcriptions from parish records that make up the IGI
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CaroleW
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:17 UTC (UK) »

I am posting this IGI entry as a possibility - it is an extracted record

Dutchworth could be Datchworth and Hereford could be Hertford.  It needs checking against whatever record you got the info from in your original post

WILLIAM WEBB GARDANER   Christening:  22 AUG 1824   Datchworth, Hertford,    Mother:  ELEANOR GARDANER 
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trish1120
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 October 09 12:57 UTC (UK) »

There is also this;

Eleanor GARDINER
Christened, 07 August 1796, Datchworth, Hertford
Parents SIMON and SUSANNA

Several siblings on Batch, first born 1788

Possible Marriage;
Simon GARDINER
Susanna SMITH
08 December 1785, Aston, Hertford, England

Extracted records IGI

Trish Smiley
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Denise McKenna
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 October 09 14:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi CaroleW,

The explanation given in regard to IGI and the cautionary note issue, I fully understand now. My knowledge in matters related to researching my Family Tree broadens with each passing day thanks to people like yourself and for that I thank you.

The dates you supplied are of much help and I will record them for reference if found to be relevant.

Many thanks! Have wonderful day. Denise McKenna.
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Denise McKenna
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V K Quinn [ My Dad ]


Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 October 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trish,

You have issued me with dates going way back to the 1700's. That is just amazing! Thankyou.
All details are recorded and have been placed in their special folder ready for reference when need be. I appreciate the time spent on your behalf on looking up my requests.

Best wishes, Denise McKenna.
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RCB
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 October 09 17:39 UTC (UK) »

Not sure if anyone has added this yet
Rosannah Gager baptised 4th April 1821 Newport Pagnell
daughter of Horatio John  and Hannah Gager

Horatio John Gager married Hannah Cook 15 Dec 1820
Newport Pagnell
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Denise McKenna
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Re: GARDINER William James - Look Up
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 October 09 08:56 UTC (UK) »

Hello RCB,

Re: Rosannah Gager baptised 4th April 1821 Newport Pagnell is of much help!  Smiley Thanks so very much.

Best wishes, Denise McKenna.
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