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chuter
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« on: Friday 09 October 09 12:45 UTC (UK) »
Hi my grand father was born Arthur Holland in mercer st newton in makerfield lancaster in 1881 His  fathers name was John , his mothers was Emma , maiden name Clarke . Arthur served in ww1, married Elizabeth Bye from Leeds Yorkshire and migrated to Australia in 1924 and died in 1960 when i was 7 years old . On his birth certificate it states his father was a saddler . Apart from some photos this is all i have . If at all possible i would love to talk with any one who may be related to or have some knowledge of the Holland family . I recently joined the Lacashire County Library , which i can only access through the web as i live in a small village in the Southern Highlands in the state of New. South. Wales. Australia . If any one could help it would be greatly appreciated , and by the same token if i can assist any one, this end of the globe i would be only to happy to as i am a member of the state library Sydney New. South. Wales. Cheers    Ray
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Hi my name is Ray i'm doing research on my grandfather Arthur Holland he was born in mercer st newton in makerfield lancaster in 1881 His fathers name was John Mothers name was Emma her maiden name was Clarke they were saddllers by trade Apart from his birth-certificate and some photos all i know about athur is that he served in ww1 then wed elizabeth bye from leeds yorkshire and migrated to australia in 1924 and died in 1960 when i was just a boy, could any one help with my search cheers ray
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Re: ancestry search
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 October 09 12:59 UTC (UK) »
Hi Ray

Welcome to Rootschat  Grin

Do you have any Census for them?
An  1881 transcript can be found here:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

The parents are at Mercer Street, Newton in Makerfield Lancashire in 1881:
Father John HOLLAND is enumerated as age 26 born Stretton Cheshire 1855

Let us know if you want to find the earlier or later Census

Cheers
AMBLY
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Luzzu
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Re: ancestry search
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

Welcome from me also  Smiley

This is your grandad in 1891:-

Living at 87 High Street, Newton in Makerfield, Lancashire

John Holland 38 head born Stretton, Cheshire occ sadler
Emma Holland 40 wife born Delamere, Cheshire
Arthur Holland 9  son born Newton, Lancs
Agnes Holland 7 dau born Newton, Lancs
Emma Holland 5  son born Newton, Lancs

Class: RG12; Piece: 3070; Folio 63; Page 47; GSU roll: 6098180

and I think this is the right marriage for his parents:-

Jun 1880
Runcorn 8a 274
John Holland/Emma Clarke

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Re: ancestry search
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:17 UTC (UK) »
Hi again,

I think this is Arthur's father with his parents in 1871:-

living in Stretton (hard to read but could be Stretton Lane)

Thomas Holland 62 head born Chrislington, Cheshire occ agricultural labourer
Mary Holland 64 wife  born Lutton, Cheshire
Alfred Holland 21 son born Stretton, Cheshire  occ agricultural labourer
John Holland 18 son born Stretton, Cheshire occ sadler

RG10/3688/92 p 8

Trying to find a possible birth for John.  Northwich seems to be the closest place to Stretton  Huh and there are 2 possibles:-

Mar 1853
John Holland
Northwich 8a 224

Dec 1853
John Holland
Northwich 8a 203

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Re: ancestry search
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:33 UTC (UK) »
And here are a couple of possible births for Emma:-

Dec 1850
Emma Clark
Northwich 19 184

(this could be mistranscribed on the FreeBMD as "19" doesn't make sense so it needs checking before you think of ordering the certificate - wouldn't want you to lose £7.00 for a typo  Smiley.  It says "19" on Ancestry too  Huh)

Mar 1854
Emma Clark
Northwich 8a 250

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Re: ancestry search
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 October 09 03:49 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Luzzu on Friday 09 October 09 22:33 UTC (UK)
It says "19" on Ancestry too  Huh)


Well it would do. Ancestry  carries a 'mirror' of the Freebmd database
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Re: ancestry search
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 October 09 09:47 UTC (UK) »
Northwich was X1X from 1837 to 1851 http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/northwich.html
 You can always look at the pair of glasses to see if the translation is correct.

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Re: ancestry search
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 October 09 11:24 UTC (UK) »
I had forgotten that some have the Roman numerals  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.
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