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moors
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1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« on: Friday 09 October 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

On index 1901 census Elizabeth A. Wallace age 26 (B) LDN Deptford living Workington Cumberland. Reason for request is that I cannot find her on 1881 census so do not know if she was (B) Deptford Ldn. I know she was (M) 1903 June Hackney to James Robertson
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 October 09 15:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi moors
Can you quote the reference for that census entry in 1901?  I can find one Elizabeth A Wallace age 26 in Workington but she is married to Patricius and mother of Joseph age 3.  Born Workington.   Could you have the wrong one here?    Who is her father on the marriage certificate?
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 October 09 16:28 UTC (UK) »

Elizabeth WALLACE 26 (in 1901, born Deptford) was living in Deptford in 1901 and married to John Huh
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 October 09 12:29 UTC (UK) »

Info. I have. James Robertson a stock exchange clerk and Elizabeth Alison Wallace had a son James Wallace Robertson 1905 Widford Hertford.
There is a (M) of them Hackney June 1903 1b 880 I do not have (M) cert.
I only can look on the INDEX of 1911 census and the three of them are there living Ware Hertfordshire James (B) 1868
Elizabeth Alison (B) 1876
James Wallace (B) 1906       unfortunately this does not give (B) places
1901 INDEX James Robertson (B) Barnsbury age 33 (1868) living Stoke Newington clerk stock exchange.
There are Elizabeth Wallace's on BMD but NO Elizabeth ALISON Wallace.
I am beginning to wonder if she was (M) before she (M) James Robertson??
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 October 09 13:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have found in 1891 the following family living at 46, Chatham Place, Hackney
James Wallace Head age 40  Fur Skin Rug Maker bn  Melrose Scotland   
Elizabeth Dick Wallace Wife age 35 bn  Selham Scotland 
Elizabeth Alice Dtr age 15  School Board Pupil Teacher bn  Melrose Scotland
William Son  age 13  Scholar bn  Plumstead Kent 
 Margaret Ethel Daughter  age  1 bn  Hackney London
also in the house but a separate household
Alison Wallace a widow age 69 bn Melrose
Elizabeth Wallace (Alisons daughter age 32)

Do you think that Elizabeth Alice is Elizabeth Alison renaming herself after her grandmother  Huh

1911 census search agrees with the place of birth

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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 October 09 13:45 UTC (UK) »

Same family in 1901 at 46 Chatham Place, Hackney

James WALLACE Head age 50  Furrier bn  Scotland   
Elizabeth Wife age 45 bn  Scotland 
Alison Dtr Single age  25 bn Scotland   
William Son Single age 23  Furrier Assistant bn  Plumstead
Margaret Dtr age 11 bn  Hackney
London VIEW 
Flora Dtr age 9 bn  Hackney
Charles BACK Son (?)  Single age 27 Ships Steward bn  Plymouth

RG13 /234 F34 P4     

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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 October 09 15:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

It looks like Rosie has found the right family, the father's occupation matches well Smiley

Marriage
Elizabeth Alison WALLACE    Jun Q 1903    Hackney    1b  880   
James ROBERTSON with same details.


3 Jun 1903
Parish: Saint John At Hackney

James ROBERTSON
Age: 35
Batchelor
Clerk
43 Bowerie Road, Stoke Newington
Father: James William Arthur ROBERTSON, Printer

Elizabeth Alison WALLACE
Age: 27
Spinster
46 Chatham Place, Hackney
Father: James WALLACE, Furrier



This looks like them in the 1881 Scotland census,


Stow, Midlothian
Killochyett

James WALLACE    Head    30    Grocer     Melrose, Roxburghshire
Elizabeth               Wife    25                 Saline, Fifeshire
William                   Son     3                  England
John                      Son     1                  England
Elizabeth               Daur     5                  Melrose, Roxburghshire


This looks like her parent's marriage and her mother Elizabeth's birth.


James WALLACE
Elizabeth NIMMO
Marriage:  24 NOV 1874   Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland
 
   
Elisabeth NIMMO
Birth:  27 APR 1855   Saline, Fife, Scotland
Father:  John NIMMO
Mother:  Elisabeth DICK
 

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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 October 09 15:51 UTC (UK) »

Rosie. Thank you for the info.
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 October 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Daisy for the info. I did try and look at the 1881 census but Scotland not on Familysearch.org. is it it me who was not looking in the right place. I did manage to find the (M) of Janes Wallace to Elizabeth Nimmo and understood why on the 1891 census she was Elizabeth DICK Wallace. I did find a (B) for James Wallace in melrose in 1851 Father William and Mother Alison Wood, so I am now thinking was the Alison Wallace on the 1891 census widow 69 Alison Wood before (M)?
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 October 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »

To everybody who has been helping me, Is it possible for one of you to trace James Wallace back on the 1871/61 and 1851 census please.
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 11 October 09 15:28 UTC (UK) »

To everybody who has been helping me, Is it possible for one of you to trace James Wallace back on the 1871/61 and 1851 census please.

Sorry Moors I can't help with Scottish census as I don't have access  Sad
No doubt someone else can help though  Wink
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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 11 October 09 16:10 UTC (UK) »

Elizabeth Alison Wallace was a spinster upon marriage aged 27,
father James a furrier which ties in with a previous message I think

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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #12 on: Monday 12 October 09 14:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Here is Alison WALLACE in 1881,


1881  RG11/493  f.51  p.30  Bow, London
16 Wansbeck Road

John BRYDON       Head    M    45    Skin Merchant furrier    Peebleshire NB
Janet      "           Wife    M    27                                    Scotland
Elizabeth A "        Daur            3                                     Kent Plumstead
Isabella L. M  "     Daur            3m                                   Middlesex Bow 
Alison WALLACE    Mother-in-law  W  59                            Scotland
Elizabeth   "         Sister-in-law    U   22  Embroiderer              "



I think there may be a marriage in 1876 for John BRYDON and Janet WALLACE here, but I don't have any credits, maybe someone else can help.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fb/



1871 Melrose, Roxburghshire
Darnick Dale

WALLACE
William     Head    54    Quarryman    St Boswells, Roxburghshire
Alison       Wife    40                      Melrose, Roxburghshire
Janet       Daur    17                          "              "
Elizabeth  Daur    14                          "              "         



Possible for James WALLACE in 1871,

1871  Dunbar, East Lothian
West Port

George BROWN           Head    30    Slaters Glazice Master    Dunbar, Haddington
Maria BROWN              Wife    29                                            "               "
George BROWN            Son     4                                             "               "
William BUCHANAN    Lodger    22    Slater                                 "               "
William TURNBULL     Lodger    20    Druggist                          Jedburgh, Roxburgh
James WALLACE      Lodger    20    Grocer                             Melrose, Roxburgh



1861  Melrose, Roxburghshire
Darnick Vale

WALLACE
William    Head    44    Mason       St Boswells, Roxburghshire
Alison      Wife    41                    Melrose, Roxburghshire
James      Son    10    Scholar            "              "
Janet D    Daur     7        "                "               "
Elizabeth  Daur     4                         "               "



1851  Melrose, Roxburghshire
Dingleton

WALLACE
William    Head    34    Journeyman Mason    St Boswells, Roxburghshire
Alison     Wife    29                                   Melrose, Roxburghshire
Infant Not Named Yet    1m                         "                "



Alison's age is wrong in 1871 but I can't see the original image so it may say 49 Undecided . Scotland's censuses can be found here, without the images,

http://www.rootschat.com/links/079k/

for images I think you can see them at the first link. Genuki also has lists of places you might find them.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/Census.html


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Re: 1891 census please Elizabeth Alison Wallace
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 14:55 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for all the info. everybody.
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