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karee.bell
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John BOURKE and Marianne (nee SMITH) BMD's
« on: Friday 09 October 09 21:11 UTC (UK) »

Ok, I got given these yesterday.

John Bourke m Marianne Smith 1865 # 3096
Their children
1. Catherine Marie b 1866 Woodend
2. Mary Ellen b 1868 Woodend
3. Patrick Francis b 1870 Woodend
4. John Bonaventure b 1871 Woodend
5. Annie Jane b 1871 Woodend
6. William Joseph b 1873 Trentham
7. Horatio John b 1874 Woodend
8. David Eugene b 1876 Woodend
9. Evaline Marguerita b 1878 Woodend
10. Henry Thomas b 1880 Woodend
11. Amelia Zoe b 1882 Woodend
12. Herbert Charles b 1885 Trentham

I want to find out if any of them died? and some of them moved to New Zealand.
I would like to be able to go back further on John and Marianne's lineage
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Karee,

John Bourke m Marianne Smith 1865 # 3096
Their children
1. Catherine Marie b 1866 Woodend
2. Mary Ellen b 1868 Woodend
3. Patrick Francis b 1870 Woodend
4. John Bonaventure b 1871 Woodend
5. Annie Jane b 1871 Woodend
6. William Joseph b 1873 Trentham
7. Horatio John b 1874 Woodend
8. David Eugene b 1876 Woodend
9. Evaline Marguerita b 1878 Woodend
10. Henry Thomas b 1880 Woodend
11. Amelia Zoe b 1882 Woodend
12. Herbert Charles b 1885 Trentham

This might be Marianne's birth
Marianne Smith b 1855 Sandhurst -parents William SMITH and  Marianne WEBB

Regards
Alison
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:44 UTC (UK) »

OMG ....thankyou.
is that Woodend in Melbourne?? etc
Are you able to find a shipping list etc, from when they left to come to NZ

THANKYOU
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »


Hi    Smiley

Just adding link to thread on NZ board, (in case it's of help) as I'd made the suggestion to Karee that she go in search of the siblings of "Catherine and Evalina BOURKE".

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=411612.new

Lu

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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi Karee,
Yes Woodend is just out of Melbourne. I haven't got access to shipping records but I am hoping someone else will pick up on that. Let me know if you need more look ups.
I had a look for John's birth there were too many possibilities. Do you know his parents names?
Regards
Alison
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Keetley-England-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransome, Gore.
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Great work Alison.   Smiley

Mmm ... I don't think that Marianne SMITH b. 1855 Sandhurst - would be the mother of Catherine Marie born 1866   though ?

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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »

Alison,
that can't be Marianne's birth, it married in 1865, and she cant have been born in 1855, she'd be only 10yrs old
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Karee,
Yes Woodend is just out of Melbourne. I haven't got access to shipping records but I am hoping someone else will pick up on that. Let me know if you need more look ups.
I had a look for John's birth there were too many possibilities. Do you know his parents names?
Regards
Alison

No I dont know his parents names,
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09 October 09 21:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alison

Were there any deaths (especially as infants) for these children of Marianne and John BOURKE ?
[Excepting of course Catherine Marie and Evalina, who we know died in New Zealand].

Cheers
Lu




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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:01 UTC (UK) »

Karee

I'm just having a look a "shipping" for you now.


Lu
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:03 UTC (UK) »

thanks
I now know that Annie Jane b.1871 married a Mr Sansom (sp) in NZ
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:07 UTC (UK) »

sorry that was Mary Ellen married    Robert Fuzzard  SANSOM in 1900
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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: Friday 09 October 09 22:09 UTC (UK) »


--   here's the link, so that you can have a look also.  Cheesy

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/

>> "Outward Passengers to Interstate, UK, NZ and Foreign Ports"



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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 October 09 23:00 UTC (UK) »

Karee

This looks like "Herbert Charles - b. 1855" marrying in NZ.

NZ Marriage Index

Herbert Charles BOURKE - Annie Louise BULLIAMS - 1912

"BULLIAMS"  ... pretty close to "BULLIANS" (Evalina's married name)  ... isn't it ??    (It's probably a spelling error on the index ?)   Perhaps brother and sister, marrying a brother and sister ?

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Re: Help finding John BOURKE and Mary Ann (nee SMITH) that moved to New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 October 09 23:04 UTC (UK) »

Karee

I see earlier that Nana suggested "Albert" as "Uncle Bert" ?

Maybe it was "Herbert Charles"  - who was known as "Bert" ?

Lu
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