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Topic: COMPLETED Claud Butler of Fulham - with Carmarthenshire COMPLETED (Read 470 times)
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lizzieliza
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Hi there.
Could some please look up the Butler family for me please?
Claud was born in Fulham in July 1903. I have no idea as to names of siblings or parents. Would appreciate any help you can give.
Many thanks.
Liz
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« Last Edit: Wednesday 11 November 09 14:07 UTC (UK) by lizzieliza »
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lizzieliza
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Wow, Tati, what a quick response! I'm amazed 
Yes, you have the right Claud (famous cycle maker), I know he also had a sister, have no knowledge of her name though, only that she married a Fred Pratt.
I really appreciate the help you are giving me. Many many thanks.
Liz
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lizzieliza
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Hi Tati.
I have been trying to find Claud on the 1911 census, typing in the name Clara, as suggested, but with no luck! I have also tried putting in his fathers details which you kindly supplied, but still nothing. I tried to use the 1911 site when it first started, to find another relative, but again failed to turn up anything, and yet a cousin put in the exact same info and found the details she was looking for. really doesn't make sense to me?
Thank you for finding Joan.
Liz
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lizzieliza
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Have managed to get into the census at last!
Liz
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lizzieliza
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Will do
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lizzieliza
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Well, Tati, this is quite confusing! We have been looking at the original census for a while now. On the initial printout it states that John Morgan was born in Harwood S Wales. We have been searching google map etc, and there is no such place there. The only Harwood we can find is in New South Wales??
It's quite difficult to read the place name on original, definately S Wales though.
Also, on Original census, it clearly has Claud and not Clara as on the first print off.
Hope this makes sense?
Liz
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Tati
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OK, found them in 1901, in a boarding house 
1901
RG13/127 21 33
Hampstead, London
187 Sumatra Rd
John M Butler, boarder, mar, 30, Draper, b. Carmarthen Llanneda (I think)
Ethel M Butler, boarder, mar, 28, Draper, b. Kent Charing
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Valda
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Hi
1901 census RG13 127 folio 21
187 Samatra Road Hampstead
John M Butler 30 Boarder Married Draper Lla ? da Carmarthen
Ethel M Butler 28 Boarder Married Charing Kent
My census provider has indexed it as 'Slauneda' but I personally think it starts with a double Ll. The nearest I could get to it would be LLanedi?
I think you need some Welsh specialists to look at both images of his birthplace. I'd put them on the Carmarthenshire board. If you are not able to do that I can move this post to the Carmarthenshire board (or you could post the details on the Carmarthenshire board) and hopefully at least the 1901 census can be looked at for you by anyone that has access to it.
It might be on earlier censuses you are looking for a John Morgan?
Having the details from the marriage certificate would also be a help.
Regards
Valda
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lizzieliza
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Hi there.
I have tried to cut and paste a snippet from the 1911 census to post on the deciphering board, but having so many problems trying to bring this about. Last attempt prompted a message which read ' this message has already been posted'? I have searched but cannot find it!
Thank you Tati, for finding them in the boarding house.
Many thanks for all the help given.
Liz
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