carroll69
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I have been told by a member of a geneology site that a member of our family Foster/Forster Crickett was sent to Durham Prison on 5th April 1875 and again 30th Dec 1878 for 4 years, any idea how and where I can find these records?
Many thanks
Anita
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maidmarion
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Calenders of prisoners Q/S/C/1-23 1867 - 1966
is held at Durham CRO. 
The documents give name, convictions, offence etc
Search at the link below for further information.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/
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winston
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1875 I see him as Foster Crickett in 1875 for 3 accounts of simple larceny carring police supervision order for 2 months each making a total of 6 mths under police supervision.
1878 I can see him next as Forster Crickett doing time for Sheep stealing after a previous conviction for Felony and his Penal Servitude was for 7 years.
If its the same man in 1881 there shows a Forster Crickett in HM Corwick prison Brixton states him as being born 1851 Scotland and his occ Coal Miner also showing that he's married.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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carroll69
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thanks wendy for the information regarding forster crickett, could you let me know where you got this from
thanks Anita
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winston
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HI Anita
Yes sure no problems it was A******y for all of it.
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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carroll69
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Thank so much for the information, I've let my membership lapse for the 'not' mentioned site. Seems this man may have assumed a different name once he got out from prison as family thought their relative was Samuel Wilkinson Cherry.
Foster Crickett married Mary Ann Ingleby and had 2 children Ellen and Robert.
A further 3 children appear then as John, Samuel and Joseph Cherry, although another connection claims to have Joseph's birth cert and father is listed as Foster Crickett hence further investigation leading to finding prison records!
Do you think Samuel Cherry and Foster Crickett could be one and the same?
Anita
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winston
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Anita
What year of births do you have for the Cherry surname children?
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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carroll69
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Hi Wendy
John Cherry 1883
Samuel Cherry 1892
Joseph Cherry 1894
I found them on the 1901c with mother as a widow.
Anita
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winston
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Well there's a right mix of surname here isn't there?
You got Forster Crickett marrying a Mary Ann in 1871/2
Then in 1881 you got Ellen, Sarah and Robert Crickett showing up in the household do a Samuel and Ellen Wlkinson as Grandchildren.....
I cant readily see where Mary Ann Cherry/ Crickett is in that 1881 census nor can I see Ellen the eldest daughter.
Bit odd this lot....
I have to have another look at this one tomorrow.
TTFN
Wendy
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Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBlakeley in Batley West Yorks Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks Moss in Morley and Leeds Parker in Morley W Yorks Parker in Hull E Yorks Tilburns in Morley W Yorks |
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winston
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Change that I've now found a Mary Ann Crickett in Kirkleatham right age but showing as a Widow and shown as born in Wales which fits with info from the 1871 census where shes still a Wilkinson which ties with her kids being with Wilkinson in the 1881.
but his this could be where the Samuel Wilkinson Crickett name fits in
Still looking for Ellen the though,
I'm in a tis now
Wendy
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carroll69
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Hi Wendy
Thanks for sticking with it!!
I'm confused too, as the marriage I have for Foster Cricket is Dec quarter 1871 to Mary Ann Ingleby, so I don't quite understand the grandchildren being with the Wilkinson family.
The Wilkinson family fit better, some of the children even being named after the grandparents.
It's really got to my this one, I'm going to have to figure it out! The person I'm trying to help had always been led to believe her grandfather was a CHERRY, although my husband is also related via Foster's sister Margaret.
I have a puzzle in my side too, I have posted in on this side before but don't know if you were visiting this site last year, I will post it later as a separate problem and try again!
Thanks so much for your help
Anita
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carroll69
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Just a little addition i found to confuse things
Mary Ann Cricket (nee Ingleby) married James Henry Wilkinson Sept quarter 1891 in Sunderland. So only have to figure out the surname Cherry now.
Anita
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carroll69
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Mary Ann Ingleby - mother Ellen Thompson, father Joseph Ingleby.
Ellen then re-married Samuel Wilkinson.
So 1881c is Mary's mother and step-father.
Second marriage to James Henry Wilkinson is just a coincidence!
Anita
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