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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #15 on: Monday 12 October 09 03:42 UTC (UK) »

A few mentions in Police Gazettes - as victims

Police Gazette 18 Aug 1875

a prisoner being discharged from gaol

Herbert Spencer Venables, English, aged 20 years, 5ft. 9in. high, fair hair, blue eyes ; sentenced to three months hard labor, for larceny from Charles George Speed, at Adelaide.

Apprehensions

Police Gazette 21 July 1893

Arthur Greaves - by Corporal Richards for imposition on Frank Speed at Caltowie -  one month.

Police Gazette 12 Jan 1898

John Parolo by M.C. Farmer for assaulting with intent to inflict grievous bodily harm upon Frank C. Speed at Wallaroo - discharged.

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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #16 on: Monday 12 October 09 03:50 UTC (UK) »

Charles Speed appears to have died in hospital.

Charles George SPEED aged 63 of Adelaide died in North Adelaide on 6th June 1900.
No relative listed.
Ref =  Ade H 270/129


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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 October 09 03:57 UTC (UK) »

cma, have you looked at
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

If not, put Speed into the search engine, find the link to the South Australian Advertiser, and then choose the Family Notices link. You may find some interesting bits and pieces there.


Dee  Smiley

cma, also, after you have searched for Speed,   and the results come up, and you've chosen the Adelaide Advertiser, put Charles into the search engine and click to search "Within these results. "

I think you'll find some interetsing bits and pieces .....  Wink


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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #18 on: Monday 12 October 09 04:10 UTC (UK) »

did you mean the part about the marriage to the daughter of Charles Speed of London in 1860? I wonder if Charles George's sister was out here already when they came in 1868, or the whole family indeed??

I'll keep looking with the next part of your message
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #19 on: Monday 12 October 09 04:14 UTC (UK) »

There's all sorts of articles on the newspaper site, cma.....I've only looked  at a couple.

There's articles about Frank Charles as well.

You'll need time to browse them all!  Grin  Grin



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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #20 on: Monday 12 October 09 04:27 UTC (UK) »

haha - indeed Cheesy I've only found a couple yet but I'll keep going!

Kris - Frank was a publican so maybe there was some rough & tumble at times. His father Charles George is shown as "accountant" on his wife's death cert, which matches I think with "secretary" at The Adelaide Club.
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #21 on: Monday 12 October 09 04:34 UTC (UK) »

A veritable treasure trove, cma..... .  Cheesy  Cheesy
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #22 on: Monday 12 October 09 13:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi CMA

Here is Victor's marriage in W,A


SPEED    VICTOR CHARLES JOKER    
FLEMING    MAY BEATRICE        
KALGOORLIE           
1905

2nd  Marriage


Victor C J Speed
Elizabeth A Blackett   
Perth   1926   

Deaths

VICTORI CHARLES    SPEED    
Age 50      Died 14/02/1933      HIGHGATE HILL 
Grantee      ELIZABETH BLACKETT 

SPEED     MAY BEATRICE     
Age 76 years     1963     BEACONSFIELD

Looks as though the C F Speed that is stated on his war records is not F C Speed.

Charles Frederick Speed and Elizabeth Lillian M Evans had a couple of children in W.A
Freda Charles Speed  1905 Perth
Ruby Charlotte Watso Speed 1897 Kalgoorlie

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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #23 on: Monday 12 October 09 22:07 UTC (UK) »

Sue - of course!  CF Speed would be Charles Frederick (the 3rd son) who would have come out from India with Susannah & Charles George. Getting mixed up with Frank Charlie & Charles Frederick - not very inventive with names were they?

I went looking in WA bdm after finding Victor's war service & found his first marriage  & death but didn't look for a second marriage - probably didn't have the dates wide enough. Thank you so much for adding to the info for me!
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #24 on: Monday 12 October 09 22:29 UTC (UK) »

also just found Charles Fred's marriage to Elizabeth Evans in Perth 1897  Smiley
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 21:35 UTC (UK) »

ok last question  Cheesy

how do I find the shipping records for 1868? I've looked everywhere I can think of & googled but I think the family must have flown here . . .
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 22:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi cma,

I checked for an entry to SA while I was at the library yesterday. No sign of it. I asked the librarian about records of immigration from India and she mentioned how a lot of records have not survived. She felt it would not likely have been directly to SA. She suggested we try other ports. She felt WA may be likely.

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 03:37 UTC (UK) »

back we go to WA then Grin

thanks once again!
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Re: charles & susannah SPEED
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 04:11 UTC (UK) »

I've just checked my Western Australian Arrivals to 1890, but can't see any of your Speeds. As far as I can see, it seems to be arrivals from the UK though.  Undecided


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