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Topic: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana (Read 3257 times)
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davclem
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oh dear, did we miss this, is our Wiggy right after all, is Leo right
Classified Advertising
The Sydney Gazette and... Saturday 19 September 1818, page 3. Advertising 429 words
... T. S. Amos. WANTED, a FEMALE SERVANT ma especta- ble Family, who understands Cooking, and other HousholdWork. None need apply whose cha- racter will not bear the strictest Enquiry. For Refe- rence ... good Well of water, and every convcniency for a genteel Family.-Apply on the Premisses, or at Mr
David
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Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth, born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820
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regross
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WDAve,
Masons were more open in the community back then than they are now.
I wonder how in depth their records are and certainly is a field we should not forget. Whre would we star NSW or Tasmania?
(my father was a mason for many years in Victoria but at that time they were quite secretive although I remeber attending family chrismas funtions in the masonic hall)
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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WiggyHobbes08
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David,
You're having me on aren't you  - the T S Amos doesn't refer to the prospective female employee as you well know - but it could!!!
Wiggy
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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania Australia)
Brown, Johnstone, Cumming, Cunningham, Crawford, Jack (Dumfriesshire, Lanarkshire, Scotland)
Percy, Dunning, (Devon, England)
Convicts of First/Second Fleet.
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regross
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Nice one Dave,
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2178215?searchTerm=amos
includes "TS Amos", "the premises" and the body of the advert but in 3 different adverts!!!
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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davclem
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Ahem.
Yes, well,the TS Amos actually refers to the farm at Cabramatta, doesn't it, the add above the one below it,and I got excited , and I'd been whipper snippering in the sun and feeling my age, and I just quickly copied the electronic version and did't look at the original text, but anyway, I bet you both got just a bit of a frisson, before you realised my credibility was totally in tatters- wish fulfilment, and a touch of the Barbara Cartlands-sorry
David
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Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth, born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820
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regross
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forgiven 
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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regross
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Hi all
a surprise find on another mailing list re Norfolk Island, it hace its own facebook site.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112736350104
regards
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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regross
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HIi
all some intersting links for Jamaica:
http://www.jamaicanfamilysearch.com
http://www.jamaicanfamilysearch.com/Samples/Soldiers.htm
from
http://www.archhistory.co.uk/taca/history.html
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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WiggyHobbes08
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Haven't lost sight of the search - busy ferreting out other members of the extended family and seeing if they can help!
Also chasing up various suggestions made during this thread. Been looking at your thoughts Robyn.
Also busy on other lines of family just to let Catharine simmer for a while.
Cheers
Wiggy
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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania Australia)
Brown, Johnstone, Cumming, Cunningham, Crawford, Jack (Dumfriesshire, Lanarkshire, Scotland)
Percy, Dunning, (Devon, England)
Convicts of First/Second Fleet.
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Just Moi
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Ummm,
See the linked thread for info about the likely father of Ann Ransom... Catharine's daughter...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,418431.0.html ... this bit .... its in German, but look....
Anne Ransom * ... 1817 (14), + Launceston, Tasmania 1.10. 1892, T.d.Captains Benjamin Overhand und der Catherine Christiane McNally, AdoptivT. d. Gastwirts Thomas Ransom u. d. Catherine McNally
Umm, fingers crossed for Wiggy, cause I'm sure we addressed "Benjamin" on the first thread, but those long threads are very hard to follow
Cheers,
JM
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regross
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Hi all,
Nice, BUT There are several people doing STIEGLITZ research so not sure how their research on other lines may be. 
I have spent some time going through the index of all military personel who served in the colonies in the period 1810-1830. 
Several McNally's (12 in all) but after cross checking all references only one possible as a husband for Catharine a Robert McNally who served with the 1/46 South Devonshire regiment which was here 1814-1818 so Catharine may well have been left behind when the regiment left.
Would be nice if someone was able to look at the AJCP microfilms for WO12 reels 5809,5810 part 3796 which must run across both to see waht records there are on him.
good luck all
RObyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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wivenhoe
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Not sure if any of this muddies the waters, or casts a light -
Thomas Ransom - From The Weekly Courier (on film) 23 Mar 26 1904, photo with his bicycle that he started riding at age 75, also article about his death page 26, column 1 same date. Thomas has a birth date of 10 Dec 1821, Hobart. Also photo four generations Thomas Ransom and daughter, grand daughter and great grand son, no names for any of them - 23 May 1903 page 23. Good pictures.
When F.W Von S. dies , Examiner article 15 Apr 1889, p23 c7, he married a daughter of Thomas Amos of Killymoon.
There is an application to marry file that features Catharine McNally marrying Von S. in 1830. Interestingly, the card index that leads to the file (Z1755 film
) has notation on the card- Class C, Arthur File - Arthur would be the govenor, and the class designation would identify a convict. But nothing on the application itself to indicate convict - just bachelor and widow.
If Thomas McNally marries as Thomas Ransom it would suggest that he was not born to McNally, whatever mother's marital status at the time. Children were often raised by widowed mothers new husband. Young daughters took the name of the man who raised them, but boys were assumed to carry name of birth father - to perpetuate the name. If he drops the McNally name I suspect that McNally was not his father.
A shipping list at Tas. Archives has Mr and Mrs F. L. Steiglitz and five children travelling to Sydney June 1852. Wonder who the children are - and what was happening in Sydney?. Not a voyage to take casually in those days.
Thomas's death cert. in Tasmania in 1904 would include provision for parents names - assuming they were known by...probably middle-aged son or daughter, so how accurate.
Wivenhoe.
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regross
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Welcome Wivenhoe to part two of this saga.
See part one where we think we have left no stone unturned  
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=383665.new;topicseen#new
This is 26 pages long and this one part 2 is already 17 pages long. We are still finding things!!!! 
It is a very intriguing research so far and quite addictive as we all really want to discover how Catharine Christiana Mcnally found her way to Tassie c 1818.
These questions remain unresloved.
Was she nee McNally or Mrs McNally?
How and when did she arrive?
All help is invaluable in trying to find these answers.
hope you have a spare hour or so to read the saga
regards
Robyn
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Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer: Middlesex;
Greenaway:Cornwall;
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett, Hampshire;
Gullett: Devon:
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
Harrington: Kent
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Just Moi
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Yes, Welcome Wivenhoe,
I agree with Robyn....
And I'm sure we did consider the chap Thomas AMOS at Killymoon.... ( that's Thomas Amos, the constable, as opposed to T S Amos Esq, solicitor)
Cheers, enjoy the reading, and get to / through the first 26 pages before re-read these now 18 pages...
Tis addictive... umm, well that's Just Moi Opinion....
Regards,
JM
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