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Topic: Richard PITCHFORD - Wales to Australia Feb. 1864 (Read 169 times)
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RSMACL
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This also is an off-shoot of topic "Catherine Wilkinson/N. Jacobs etc." in which quite some info. was passed regarding Richard (Francis Richard) Pitchford and his marriage to Margaret Wilkinson in December 1864. I have received copy of original certificate - they were married at "Mrs. Fadges' Residence, Kapunda", on 3rd December, 1864, and 2 witnesses at wedding were: William Fadge, Miner and Mary Fadge. Ceremony was performed by Rev. Morgan Williams, Congregational Minister. I have a strong feeling that they may have known each other before setting off for Australia - and I have wondered why they didn't marry before sailing. You have given me the ship as "Utopia" - on which Margaret sailed, arr. Pt. Adelaide 8 Feb. 1864 - do you have a ship for Richard? I checked up again on 1851 Census - Francis Richard and brother Francis (Frank) were living with parents in Newcastle, Shropshire, which is not far north of Clun. Also in 1871 Census: parents of Francis Richard, Frank, etc., (Francis & wife Elizabeth (Hill)) and their dau. Margaret are living in Trevethin village, Abersychan - which is where Margaret Wilkinson lived with her family. Possibly the families knew each other. Is there any way of finding out if there was any further connection?
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krisesjoint
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Nate at 9 weeks
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Hi Ruth,
We did give you Richard's immigration on the other thread - It was Richard who sailed on the Utopia - not Margaret. 
The original thread.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,407276.0.html
I have been to the library today. I did tell you I would check the passenger lists when next at the library. I had not been to Adelaide since I made the offer. I do not live in the city, but do come down every few weeks.
Margaret's husband is Francis Richard, yet his brother was Francis as was his father - most confusing
1876 SA Almanac and Directory
PITCHFORD Francis, blacksmith, Forreston PITCHFORD R., wheelwright, Jamestown
1881 SA Almanac and Directory
Pitchford & Mutton, blacksmiths, Yongala
Cheers Kris 
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krisesjoint
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PITCHFORD Richard arrived 8 Feb 1864 aboard the UTOPIA as an assisted immigrant. He was single, aged 23, a carpenter. He was selected from Monmouth. agent Scott and Sons. Pd £4. His conduct aboard the ship was good.
PITCHFORD Francis arrived 24 Sep 1865 aboard the ELECTRIC as an assisted immigrant. He was married, aged 22, a blacksmith. He was selected from Monmouth - agent Scott and Sons, Pd £1. He was travelling with his wife Elizabeth aged 22 and his son William aged 2
I think it is interesting that Francis, Richard and their family do not seem to be in the 1861 census like Margaret and her family. All seem to be missing - 1871 Richards family are now living in Trevethin where Margaret is from. I wonder where all these people were in 1861. All together somewhere? 1851 Margarets father is a coal miner - missing in 1861 and then he is back and has a hotel.
Cheers Kris
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judb
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I'm not sure if you have this already:
Looks as though there was some connection with the Pitchford family and Trevethin
I would suggest that this chap may well be the brother of Francis and Richard. In the 1861 Wales census there is John PITCHFORD, 24, b Herefordshire (no town given), blacksmith Sarah A PITCHFORD, 24, b Henbury, Glos, wife Francis T PITCHFORD, 1, b Trevethin, Abersychan, Monmouthshire, Wales This couple's marriage (maiden name Sarah Anne Phillips), reg Pontypool June qr 1859
Francis PITCHFORD m Elizabeth REES, June quarter 1861 registered Abergavenny district. This district does not include Trevethin but is later to become Pontypool district. Trevethin and Pontypool are only a mile or so apart. Their son William's birth was registered Pontypool Dec qr 1862.
Hope this is of some use.
Judith
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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts SONE - Hants WRIGHT - London, Hants SEAGER - Deptford
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