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Rapunzel
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HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« on: Monday 12 October 09 16:42 UTC (UK) »

I'm trying to find something on the McGuffoc/McCulloch side of my family.

Anthony McGuffoc and Agnes Campbell had a daughter Sara McGuffoc but seemingly never married. Sara was born in 1792 in Kirkmaiden. Sara McGuffoc and Wm McCulloch had a daughter Sara McCulloch in 1814 in Kirkmaiden. I've found no marriages or other births. This Sara married John Gibson in 1833 in Kirkmaiden.

Is there anyone who can help me find out more about the McGuffocs and McCullochs?
Did Anthony McGuffoc perhaps come from Ireland?

Many thanks
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KirstyG
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Re: HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 October 09 23:08 UTC (UK) »

The Kirk Session records may have information on an illegitimate birth.

Have you viewed the original documents? Do they have any further information?


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Rapunzel
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Re: HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 12:15 UTC (UK) »

Dear Kirsty

Thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately, I haven't found much documentation and what I have found has limited information. I was hoping there was someone out there who might be looking for the same names and could help.

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KirstyG
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Re: HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 12:23 UTC (UK) »

Could you tell us what documentation you have found, so prevent duplication of effort? Smiley
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Have you viewed birth and marriage entries in the OPRs? Have you found anyone on the 1841 census?


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Re: HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 13:30 UTC (UK) »

Have you tried any surname variants? The NAS catalogue has no entries for "McGuffoc", but 79 for "McGuffog", similar story with SP Will search.

There seems to have been a McGuffog/McGuffock at Rusco Castle in Galloway historically, so the name may be relatively local.

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Re: HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 14:07 UTC (UK) »

Am putting together all the bits of information I have and will get back to you asap.

Thanks for all  the helpful suggestions - not tried all of them yet.

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Re: HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 October 09 17:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kirsty,

Thanks for the offer.
I have traced back to John Gibson marrying Sara McCulloch in 1833. Her birth record shows she is illeg dtr of Wm McCulloch and Sara McGuffog, born 1814.
OPR Births 1814-1854 show no other children for this couple, but 8 for a Sara McGuffog and John McCulloch.
OPR Marriages for John McC show 6 but none to Sara.
OPR Deaths 1814-1824 for Wm McCulloch show 1 in 1822 but no further info.
Birth search 1750-1790 for Wm and John McCulloch produce 2 links - John McCulloch and Mary McDouall, and John McCulloch and Jean McGaw, with children born between 1758 to 1767.
1841 Census for Sarah McCulloch yields just one - my Sarah aged 7, but no Williams or Johns old enough to belong to The McCulloch/McDoualls or the McCulloch/McGaas.
A search for McGuffog births 1780-1810 show:
Anthony McG and Agnes Campbell had Elizabeth, Agnes, Grizal, Jean and John.
William McG and Margaret McCulloch has Agnes, Elizabeth, Janet, Mary and William,
Alexander McG and Margaret Rhodie had Elizabeth, John, Patrick and William.
The only Anthony born in this period was to an Alexander in 1809 but with no mothers name given.
The IMs for Kirkmaiden yield just one Anthony, and that was as an erector on a headstone to his brother Patrick who died in Ahneight in 1768.
All of the above searches have been confined to Kirkmaiden

Hope this helps you to help me!!

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Re: HELP! HELP! Kirkmaiden.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 October 09 18:57 UTC (UK) »

The IGI has the christening of an Anthony McGuffog in Old Luce 1745, parents Patrick McGuffog and Jean Wallace. That would make him about the right age to be having children the the 1770-90s with Agnes Campbell.

If we are looking at the same couple (just with variations of spelling of his surname) they had the following christened:
William McGuffog 1773
Agnes McGuffog 1781
John McGuffog 1784
Jean McGuffog 1787
Elizabeth McGuffog 1790
Sara McGuffoc 1792
Grizel McGuffog 1798

So add William on to the list you already had.

There seems to be the marriage of Anthony Mcguffog to Elizabeth Campbell in 1776 Kirkmaiden, but none to Agnes.

There may be more than one Anthony McGuffog in the area at that time, as there was a daughter Janet born to Anthony McG and Elizabeth Campbell in 1776. Either that or Agnes and Elizabeth are the same person, as there is a gap in the births for Agnes around that time.

Another spelling variation to consider when searching the IGI is Mc Guffog (also MacGuffog or McGuffoge). The IGI seems to consider that a separate surname to McGuffog etc. There are a number of extracted entries under that, as well as lots of submitted ones.



"1841 Census for Sarah McCulloch yields just one - my Sarah aged 7"  Huh

I thought your Sara married in 1833? So by the 1841 census she would be Sarah Gibson aged about 27 (possibly living with husband,children and sister-in-law? at Knokancule?)


I think John McGuffog, son of Anthony and Agnes Campbell may be in the 1851 census as a shoemaker at Low Drumore.

http://www.dgcommunity.net/historicalindexes/census.aspx

If this is Sara's brother then it might be worth looking at his marriage entry to see if it gives any more info on the parents or where they lived.

It might be worth looking at MIs for other parishes just in case some of the family moved and erected one elsewhere.

Kirsty



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