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Gadget
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 08:50 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Lorica
I presume this is an ancestral line from Isabella back to John?
What additional information are you looking for? Do you want to go forward or back or look at siblings? Do you have them on the 1841-1901 censuses? This would give information about their occupations and children, etc.
The marriage certificate of Angus to Mary Ann would give his mother's name and thus the wife of Angus (b. 1834) and, if this Angus married in 1855 or after, his marriage cert would give his mother's name and thus the wife of John. Similarly, with Isabella's and Angus, jnr.'s birth certs and John's death cert.
These BMDs and censuses can be found on the Scotlands People site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk It's a pay to view site but very reasonable - e.g. an index search and a view/download of a copy of a cert. would be 6 credits (=£1.20)
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Gadget
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 16:41 UTC (UK) » |
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How sure of the dates/places are you? I don't see an Angus M*greg*or born in Perthshire between 1865 and 1870 on SP .
Do you have any of the birth/marriage certs?
Gadget
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Gadget
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 20:08 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi
I think the best thing is to work back from what you know - i.e Isabella's parents from the marriage cert and then their parents from their marriage certs etc. and fill in gaps from censuses and other BMDs.
Do you know for sure that the 1841 family are yours?
Gadget
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Gadget
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 09:08 UTC (UK) » |
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I would think that it is Angus. An n can look very much like a u when handwritten.
PS - can you just do a small snip of the census and attach here. You aren't allowed to put up a full page because of copyright.
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Cambron
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 09:35 UTC (UK) » |
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Your McGregors were neighbours of my ancestors in Mill St Aberfeldy.The men worked in the Mill which is now a tourist attraction.The workers' houses in Mill St still exist.
You need to check the birth dates of the children you are quoting because they differ from what is on Ancestry for 1841 and the actual dates on SP..
The family are still in Aberfeldy 1851 with parents' place of birth being Kenmore..The father may have died pre 1855.According to SP the mother Christian McGregor nee Campbell died 1862 Aberfeldy.She is in the 1861 census on SP but not on Ancestry.The couple married in Kenmore in 1816 with the first child Janet born there the following year.
Hope this helps
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Lorica
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 09:51 UTC (UK) » |
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Cambron thanks for the information, will check the years of birth of the children. I noticed John was a miller. Thanks, Will have to make a visit.
Gedget tried to attach extracts of 1841 census, and marriage of Angus jnr. I have also found an IGI Individual Record on the LDS site Angus McGregor born 12 Feb 1834, christening 20 Feb 1834, Place of Birth Kenmore parents John and Christian. This is giving me a headache... lol
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Garforth (Yorkshire), Day (Yorkshire), Tiplady (Lancashire & Yorkshire), Hall (Yorkshire), Parish (Yorkshire & Cambridgeshire), Clarke (Leicestershire & Yorkshire)
McGregor (Perthshire), Louden (Perthshire)
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Gadget
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 14:06 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi Lorica
They all read Angus to me. i think the slightly open n might look like a u.
I'll start looking at your family in more detail over the next few days and see if I can find anything more that may help.
The 1841 entry has Angus's wife as Christian and his occupation as miller. This doesn't tie in with the Janet m.s Stewart and occupation gamekeeper on the marriage cert.
I assume that the marriage entry is the correct Angus and you are trying to find the mother and father listed there on the censuses. Neither are noted as deceased on the marriage cert so I'd look for them on the closest census to that date.
I also note that this Angus is a carter which doesn't tie in with the University student that you mentioned earlier.
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Gadget
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 15:14 UTC (UK) » |
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Sorry - got mixed up with all the Anguses!
Just trying to get this together from your DofBs and census/cert info
John (b. 1796) m Christian Occ - Miller
Angus (b. 1834) m Janet Stewart Occ - Gamekeeper
Angus (b. 1867) m Mary Ann Occ - Carter/Contractor
Have you got the marriage cert of Angus and Janet Stewart? This would link into John and Christian.
Gadget
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Re: McGregor
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 15:33 UTC (UK) » |
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Lorica
There's something odd about the Angus b.circa 1867. His birth doesn't seem to appear around then. The nearest that I get are two births (on SP and IGI) :
2 May 1864 - Fowlis Wester Parents - Alexander McGregor and Janet Stewart
18 Jun 1864 in Dunblane Parents - James McGregor and Sarah McLeod
The Fowlis Wester couple married 20 December 1861, Fowlis Wester
Can you check on the Angus (1867) on the 1871-1901 censuses for place and date of birth.
Gadget
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