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Michaela Bennett
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Missing!
« on: Tuesday 13 October 09 16:20 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi All
I am trying to find my missing Thompson/Ennever's. I can't find a marriage and I can't find the birth of 4 of their children and they don't seem to want to be found in the 1871 census. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
James Thompson b. 1837 in Higham, Kent d. 1893. in Shorne Kent
Jane Ennever b. 1839 in Holborn, Middlesex d. 1880 in Shorne Kent
Their eldest child:- John Thompson b. 1866 in St Luke's Middlesex
Jane is found in 1861 still living with her parents aged 22 named as Jane Ennever but down as married??? James is at sea on the Royal Navy Ship 'Narcissus' aged 24 also down as married.
Their next 4 children:
George A Thompson b. 1867 in Plymouth
Eliza Thompson b. 1869 in Plymouth
William H Thompson b. 1870 in Plymouth
Emma J Thompson b. 1872 in Plymouth
All mentioned in the 1881 census. So presumably they must have been living in Plymouth in 1871. So why can't I find them?
James could be on another ship somewhere, so where could his wife and children be hiding. I've tried looking in Devon, Middlesex, Kent and for both surnames, either trying her name or the children's names each in turn.
kind regards
Michaela
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Smith's of Worcestershire/Staffordshire
Baker's of Hernhill, Kent
Hockey's of Crewekerne, Somerset
King's of Chatham & Gravesend, Kent
Bennett's of Clifton Hampden, Oxon
Stone's of West Farleigh,Kent
Ennever of Holborn Middlesex
Thompson of Shorne Kent
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Necromancer
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Re: Missing!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 18:09 UTC (UK) » |
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How come the Mother in Law in 1881 census staying with the family is a JANE Enevers, when the 1861 census shows the Jane you have in mind has a Mother Elizabeth?
The '1861' Jane seems to be up north in 1881 and 1901 ?
I think this is the Jane whose mother is with James in 1881 ...
1861 - RG9/279; Folio: 55; Page: 26; - St George in the East, Middx
19, Devonshire Street
Jane Enever 45 WIDOW Head Umbrella Maker born Hornchurch Essex - hmmm, was looking for Sheeerness really ...
William Enever 25 son Umbrella Frame Maker St George, Middx
Jane Enever 23 UnMarried dau Umbrella Maker do
That Jane is still with Mum and bro in St Georges in 1871, so cant be the mother of the Plymouth-born Thompsons ?
do you have any of the Plymouth-born kids certs showing the mothers former names etc ?
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Necromancer
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Re: Missing!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 18:31 UTC (UK) » |
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ah, but wait - some else is researching the Thompsons - this is what they had to say about M-i-L Jane in 1881 ...
Elizabeth Mary rather than Jane
Name recorded incorrectly by census taker. Jane Ennever was maiden name of James Thompson's late wife. Her mother now living with family. Birth date and place are same as E.M Griffin
Submitted by Simon Ennever on 30/12/2008
Surname Griffin rather than Enever
Name recorded incorrectly by census taker. Jane Ennever was maiden name of James Thompson's late wife. Her mother now living with family. Birth date and place are same as E.M Griffin
Submitted by Simon Ennever on 30/12/2008
so its looking again that Jane IS the lass you originally had in 1861, and her mother Elizabeth was indeed born Sheerness 
you should send a message to that Ancestry subscriber via the 1881 census entry note he's made - unless its you ?? 
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nigelp
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Re: Missing!
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 21:05 UTC (UK) » |
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How do you know that John C. Thompson (born 1866) was a child of James and Jane?
If the age in the 1881 Census is wrong there is the following birth which might be relevant:
George Alfred Thompson - 5c 40 St Germans Sep 1865.
Nigel
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Alcock (Ashill), Barber (Chilcompton), Breeze (Ovington), Carey (Salisbury and Warminster), Collacott (Combe Martin and Shebbear), Creamer (North Elmham), Goss (Bristol and Combe Martin), Musselwhite (Britford and Downton), Sparkes (North Elmham), Thorogood (Little Hallingbury), Turner (Codford, Salisbury and Warminster), Wakefield (Briston and Hindolveston)
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nigelp
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Re: Missing!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 09:21 UTC (UK) » |
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However, from the first message of the thread they can't be found in the 1871 Census.
Nigel
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Alcock (Ashill), Barber (Chilcompton), Breeze (Ovington), Carey (Salisbury and Warminster), Collacott (Combe Martin and Shebbear), Creamer (North Elmham), Goss (Bristol and Combe Martin), Musselwhite (Britford and Downton), Sparkes (North Elmham), Thorogood (Little Hallingbury), Turner (Codford, Salisbury and Warminster), Wakefield (Briston and Hindolveston)
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Yippee, I believe I have found the children. I didn't think to look just across the river in Cornwall. I have found Emma Jane Thompson b. sept 1872, William henry Thompson b. mar 1870 and Eliza Ann Thompson b. jun 1868 all in Saint Germans. But still no George.