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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #15 on: Monday 19 October 09 12:02 UTC (UK) »

Just keep in mind that all pre-registration church records (such as baptisms) might not survive or that a particular database might not have indexed all available records.
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 15:45 UTC (UK) »

Hello again been looking around for any signs of Fisher families in the Westmeath area , I found another mention of  a William Fisher 1800 living at Baylin which I'm sure is Mount Temple area between Moate & Athlone---so there was some Fisher's around that area in 1800's,Thorgils I'll send you a PM on the article I found---regards Nipy
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 01 November 09 05:17 UTC (UK) »

J have also beeen researching Margaret Fisher and her sister Mary. This is what I have compiled so far...
John Thomas was born in 1827, and died 5 March 1894, aged 67.
According to Lexia Schulz,  he  came to Australia with his brother William on the David McIvor (McIver) in 1853, when he was 26.
But His grandson wrote that John Thomas Roberts was the captain of a ship to the goldfields. his crew jumped ship and he was stranded here. I have the births of their various children in Victoria
e  married Margaret Fisher on the 10th  October, 1855 in St Mary’s Roman Catholic Cathedral Sydney.

Mary was born in 1832 in Athlone , Westmeathe, Ireland. She came to Australia on the Tippoo Saib (also spelt Sahib / Sail) which left Plymouth in April 1850 and arrived in Sydney on 29th July. She was 18 at the time, and came with her 16 year old sister Mary.  They were the  daughters of Henry and Margaret Fisher who were both dead, possibly as a result of the potato famine. Margaret and Mary were some of the famous Irish Orphans. The Tippoo Sahib  left Plymouth 8/4/1850 with 249 immigrants, many of them young orphan girls, under Captain Morphen. They were not required to pay the £4.00 fare.

How does this match with your research?  from Cassandra NSW
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 November 09 20:46 UTC (UK) »

John Thomas Roberts was born in 1827 London, Oxfordshire, I believe he sailed to Australia via the Barque Sarah which departed Plymouth August 26th 1849 and arrived December 15 1849 Port Jackson, Sydney (I am waiting for the paperwork but the evidence I have found on ancestry.com seem to confirm this), He married Margaret Fisher on the 10th  October 1855 in St Mary’s Cathedral Sydney, they soon moved from Sydney to Woolshed Creek, Beechworth where they had 8 children he then moved to Marrar, Wagga Wagga and died on the 5th March 1894 (he died of apoplexy)

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Ship = Sarah

John Roberts aged 23yrs, baker and farm labourer. Last address was in Burford Oxfordshire. His parents are listed as William and Rebecca Elizabeth. It also says father living in Somerstown at that time. Summertown is apparently an Ecclesiastical parish in Oxfordshire. Religion Church of England.


Have found the family in 1841 in Oxfordshire and John is listed as 10years old and he has a younger sister Rebecca aged 4 years. Fathers occupation a baker.
all stated as born in Oxfordshire.

1851 sees Rebecca as married but husband not there, shes born Blandford Poull, Oxfordshire c 1797. Also in household daughter Rebecca 13yrs and born
St. Andrew, Oxfordshire, another daughter called Elizabeth 28yrs and born Coombe Oxfordshire and Charles Bolton 7yrs a nephew, born Berkshire.
HO107; Piece: 1727; Folio: 443; Page: 4; = Oxford St. Giles

Both William and Rebecca are together in 1861

William born c1797 in Kidlington Oxfordshire and Rebecca is now down as born in Cornbury Park Oxon,William is a commercial traveller.


I have very little research on Margaret Fisher as I have been predominately researching John Thomas Roberts. I consequently have copies of a lot of Death certificates if your interested for the Roberts side

Brock NSW  Grin
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 November 09 20:49 UTC (UK) »

Would Lexia Schulz be a child of Nancy Elizabeth Roberts and Bernard Dawson Shulz? one of three children?
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Margaret Fisher and husband John Roberts.
« Reply #20 on: Monday 02 November 09 10:12 UTC (UK) »

I think John Roberts was born about 1826 to parents Francis Roberts and Grace. Francis was born Devoport and Grace was born Cornwall. she was born Grace Jasper which ties in with John giving Jasper as a middle name to a child here in Australia., and to naming his daughter Frances Grace (she was my g grandmother) John's brother migrated to USA.
The Roberts family liveda family story a long time back, and recorded that John was a ship's captain.I ghave a copy of his writings.
John's father Francis Roberts had been a ship's captain too, on the Ajax.

from Cassandra
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #21 on: Monday 02 November 09 11:27 UTC (UK) »

Is it possible we could exchange email's and information?

I thought I was on the right trail however your information seems quite accurate and you seem confident of you research and you have me doubting myself  Shocked

I have to admit that the Frances and Jasper fits in with the names of his children like you said.

I have pretty much just been tracing the Roberts name from myself back through the family

Brock Andrew Roberts Me
Donald Valmore Francis Roberts Dad
Donald Henry Roberts Grandad
Francis Henry Roberts G-Grandad
Francis Henry Roberts G-G Grandad
John Thomas Roberts G-G-G Grandad
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #22 on: Monday 02 November 09 12:05 UTC (UK) »

Email address cannot be posted online here but you can use PM (personal message) system to exchange personal details like email addresses.
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #23 on: Monday 02 November 09 16:59 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for the helpful comments from the moderator. Your time and input is greatly appreciated.
Cassandra
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Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #24 on: Monday 02 November 09 17:13 UTC (UK) »

Yahoo! It looks like your gg grandfather Francis Henry is the brother of my g grandmother Frances Grace. They lived in the Wagga area of western NSW.

The story written by John T Robert's  grandson Mervyn tells of how he came to Victoria as the captain of a boat bringing gold seekers. When his crew jumped ship, he went mining himself. At first he did quite well with his prospecting. He later obtained land at Marrar under a land grant, sometime after 1873 near Wagga and built a homestead he named Home Dale. There were financial hardships for sometime, but they coped.

He collapsed whilst buildng a post and rail fence and died shortly after, 1894.

I have sent you a personal message so, hopefully, we can exchange further information.

Cassandra
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Re: Margaret Fisher or Fisher Family of Westmeath
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 20:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Cassandra,

I have sent my email to you via PM, I have a few certificates which I hope might help you out as soon as I get you email I'll send them on.

Brock
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