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juiceanca
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Glasgow marriage
« on: Thursday 15 October 09 18:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi all
I have found a marriage of my campbell family ,Its a Michael Campbell and Mary Campbell [nee Kellie] in 1822 scotland Barony Glasgow.I think they were Catholic would there of been many churchs where they could of got married.

Many thanks for taking the time to read
julian
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Big-toshie
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 October 09 18:42 UTC (UK) »

Catholic churches in Glasgow.....lots of them!

Someone here will be an expert Wink
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 October 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »

Not that many in 1822 though see
http://www.stsimonspartick.org.uk/?page_id=24

best wishes,
John
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Billy Anderson
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 October 09 00:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Julian,
I had a quick look on the IGI site
www.familysearch.org
but no mention of the church just the date of the marriage.
28th April.1822 Barony,Lanark,Glasgow.

If you go onto the paysite Scotlandspeople it should be fairly easy to get the marriage certificate.
The Catholic church records have just been added to the site.

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

regards,Billy.
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ANDERSON=Glasgow, Denny,Bathgate,Kilsyth/Alameda(USA)
BINNING= Bathgate
MILLER=Kilsyth
BLACK, MCINTYRE=Ise of Lismore
DONALD=Enzie
LYMBURNER=Denny
Big-toshie
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 October 09 08:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Had a check on ScotlandsPeople. As its pre-1855 its in the Old Parish Register section:Banns and Marriages 1538-1854.
A search for Michael Campbell + Kellie +1821-1823 give 1 result which is the one you are looking for. I did not open the result as thats 5 credits.

Register, pay £6.95 and you get 30 credits.

good luck
Bob
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 October 09 08:25 UTC (UK) »

Bob, just a small correction. It is £6GB for the 30 credits.

It will be interesting to see what the marriage entry shows in 1822 for church. The recent addition to Scotlands People of Catholic registers is for the time being only for births and baptisms www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&1374

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 October 09 08:34 UTC (UK) »

Oh yes £6 for SP!  What's £6.95 -Ancestry? Anyway.... Wink
Bob
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 October 09 08:36 UTC (UK) »

Whatever it is Bob, it's always money out of our genealogy wallets  Grin
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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juiceanca
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 October 09 11:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi all
thankyou all for your time and help ,i have looked at the marriage and enclosed all the information it gives ,but sadly its not a lot only confirmation it is the correct one as he was a glass cutter.
there is no mention of church though only same as igi Barony,Lanarkshire,Scotland.
would anybody have any more ideas how i could find the church,little dissapointing as i thought the scottish records had more information than this.
thanks again for your time.will keep thinking
julian


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JustJean
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 October 09 21:01 UTC (UK) »

Going on a limb here but my guess is it's in the Parish of St Andrews.  Do I hear you ask why?Huh  Smiley

Thought they might have had a wee in the few years post marriage so I searched the available Catholic Baptisms on SP and there is surprisingly only one Campbell with father named Michael and mother named Mary...

06/09/1828 14/09/1828 CAMPBELL PETER - MICHAEL CAMPBELL/MARY SHELLY M GLASGOW, ST ANDREW'S

Now notice that SP has the mum's mn on this one as SHELLY.  A look at the image of the original shows that the handwriting does indeed look a bit like SH instead of K....but then look at the marriage you've posted above and it sorta looks like the same handwriting of the K.....

Did your couple have a son named Peter???

Best wishes
Jean

Hmmm...on second thought I'm wondering if this could be right.  I mean the marriage is in the OPR's so one would think it was in a Church of Scotland.  I've seen baptisms recorded in the OPR's before that were actually not CoS but not marriages.  Do you have a record of any or how many children were born to your Michael and Mary?Huh?  This one needs deeper investigation methinks.....

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Skoosh
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 October 09 22:14 UTC (UK) »

St' Andrews is the Catholic Cathedral in Clyde Street, it was the only Catholic church in Glasgow around that time...Skoosh.
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juiceanca
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 October 09 23:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jean
Many thanks for your time,Michael definatley had a son peter Campbell,born around 1830 as we have many different dates for birth 1830/1828,some military which we paid somebody to research on our behalf  at Kew only problem was no exact birth date.
some census which we all know can vary,all we have for sure is Peter Campbell born Glasgow,cotton spinner.Michael Campbell father Glass cutter.
we do not know if Peter had brothers or sisters,wish we could find out.we too thought maybe the sh.. could be kelly.. or could it of just been recorded wrong,as they probably didnt bother to much about the paperwork.
your help is much appriciated as im really stuck at the moment.

many thanks for your time julian

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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 17 October 09 01:15 UTC (UK) »

JustJean is exactly right - St Andrew's in Clyde Street was the only Catholic church in Glasgow at that time. The next nearest was in Edinburgh.
St Andrew's was established in 1816.  I'm sure if you contacted the archivist (I think it will still be Dr Mary McHugh) at the Archdiocese Office in Clyde St she will be able to help you, worth a try before you spend fortunes on ScotlandsPeople.

Here is the email address.

Archives@rcag.org.uk

Lodger.
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Billy Anderson
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 October 09 09:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi all,
once again I am totally blown away my the narrowing down of info and dogged determination to get to the answer.
well done all,
Billy.
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BLACK, MCINTYRE=Ise of Lismore
DONALD=Enzie
LYMBURNER=Denny
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Re: Glasgow marriage
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi All

With all the info that has been found, could this be Peter with mother in 1841:

Machael Ferrell 20, journeyman baker, b. Ireland
Francis Ferrell 14, Cotton Carder, b. Ireland
Mary Ferrell 10, Cotton Power Loom Weaver, b. Ireland
Biddy Ferrell 8, b. Ireland
Elisabeth Ferrell 40, b. Ireland
Mary Campbell 35, Cotton Power Loom Weaver, b. Ireland
Peter Campbell 12, Cotton Yarn Peacer, b. Lanarkshire

Margret Kelly 20,Cotton Power Loom Weaver, b. Lanarkshire

Address: Dalmarnock Road, Glasgow Barony

From the household entry on FreeCen, this entry is in Bridgeton, Mary Kelly's area from the marriage entry. Maybe some connection...

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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