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kevinadd
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Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« on: Thursday 15 October 09 21:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I am trying to find my gt grandmothers parents. I have her marriage certificate to Charles Henry Addison in 1887 and it shows her father as Charles Cook but he was not one of the witnesses.
The census for Charles H and Elizabeth Towell show her place of birth as Metheringham and there is an Elizabeth Ann Towell born around that time in Metheringham but on Ancestry someone has a full history for her going to Canada and dying soon after emigrating, the only other 2 I can find were born at Ludford or Stamford and there was an Elizabeth (dont know surname) living with grandparents Cook in Metheringham about the right time. So I am a bit stuck as to which is my relative and have been unable to move any further. I would be very grateful if anyone can shine a light on this.

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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 October 09 21:57 UTC (UK) »

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on Ancestry someone has a full history for her going to Canada and dying soon after emigrating

Hi Kevin and welcome to RootsChat

A word of warning - don't believe anything you see on ancestry (or any other FH site) unless you've checked out the details yourself. There are lots of people out there who latch onto a name that looks about right, then run with it.

Can you give us the census references for the information you already have. Someone might be able to follow through for you.

Linda

Added Can you also give us date & place of marriage in 1887


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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 October 09 22:05 UTC (UK) »

So looking at RG10; Piece: 3368; Folio: 66; Page: 25

Henry Towill    65
Elizabeth Towill    60
Elizabeth Towill    3 Grand-dau b Stamford.
http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=42574566&d=bmd_1254881774

1881: RG11; Piece: 3237; Folio: 118; Page: 9

Frederick Towell    42
Sarah Towell    40
Elizabeth A. Towell    14
http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=39692560&d=bmd_1254881774
William Towell    12
Charles Towell    10 b Metheringham
Thomas Towell    9
Jane Towell    7
Florence Towell    3

1871 for that family. all b Metheringham
RG10; Piece: 3368; Folio: 65; Page: 24

Fredrick Towill    30
Sarah Towill    29
Elizabeth Towill    5
William Towill    2
Charles Towill    9


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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 October 09 22:16 UTC (UK) »

"Civil Registration * The parish is in the South West sub-district of the Lincoln Registration District."

It seems likely that the Sarah who wed Fred Towell was a Topham at the time.
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?start=1865&end=1865&sq=2&eq=2&type=Marriages&vol=7a&pgno=931


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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 October 09 22:20 UTC (UK) »

1861 for Sarah Topham. RG9/2362/ 4/ 2

1851. HO107/2104/78/ 43


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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 October 09 22:31 UTC (UK) »

Working on the cook angle.

RG11; Piece: 3237; Folio: 122; Page: 18

Alice Cook    32
Elizabeth Cook    14 b Stamford (Same as G'dau Towell in 1871)
John Cook    13
Sarah Ann Cook    8
Fred Cook    6
Rebecca Cook    5
Selina Cook    2

1871. RG10/ 4856/ 18/ 30

Thomas Bavin    58 b Metheringham
Elizabeth Bavin    8
William T Bavin    6
Alice "Fowell "   22 UNWED Housekeeper, b Metheringham
John H " Fowell "   1 b Metheringham
Thomas Ellis    23
John Bellamy    17

in 1861 the grandparents looking after Eliza Towell appear to be Alice's Parents.
RG9/2356/113/22

1871 marriage
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?start=1871&end=1871&sq=3&eq=3&type=Marriages&vol=9d&pgno=664a


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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 October 09 22:54 UTC (UK) »

I think her mum was Alice, father unknown (But Charles Cook for respectability).


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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 October 09 23:00 UTC (UK) »

Selina as Cooke in 1891. RG12/2581/37/12


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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 October 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for all the great info. We had seen some of this but couldn't figure it out.

The marriage certificate I have for Elizabeth and Charles Henry Addison is Lincoln 1887 Q2 7a 1011. Date 12th April 1887. Residence at time of marriage Apley (parish of Stainfield) . Interesting the witnesses were John Henry Cook and Emma Addison.

We know Emma is Charles sister, I see there is a John Cook 13 on a census Pauline has sent with an Elizabeth 14 who both have Alice Cook as their mother. So this is maybe the tie in.

Also the Fowell connection (assumably a typo or mispronounciation at the time) also mentions a John H as the son of Alice.

So I am believe you are correct Pauline. Alice is the mother whose daughter Elizabeth was being looked after by her parents in Metheringham while she was working in Guisborough as a housekeeper and had her son John Henry with her. She then married Charles Cook in Guisborough.

Many thanks I will have a closer look at the documents

Kevin


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kevinadd
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Re: Elizabeth Towell c1868 Metheringham ?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 October 09 21:13 UTC (UK) »

Quick update to this one.

The marriage certificate for Charles Cook and Alice Fowell shows Alice to be a Towell not Fowell which is what we expected and her father is listed as Henry Cook. There is a Henry cook with an Elizabeth living with them in Metheringham so this confirms that link. The only problem is what was Alice doing in Guisborough to marry Charles Cook. Well on the census when I check the family she was living with as a servant the head of the house was born in Metheringham. So it looks like she went with the family when they moved to Guisborough leaving her young daughter with her parents. Alice married in 1871 Elizabeth her daughter was born in 1868 so therefore was still a Towell not a Cook as confirmed on her marriage certificate to Charles Henry Addison. Elizabeths birth certificate shows no father. So that trail ends there.

Thanks for all the help


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