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Topic: Census look up Whittlesey COMPLETED (Read 254 times)
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ivanidea
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Hello Kovel
This looks like Daniel and Milicent in 1861:
1861 Census
RG09 Piece 964 Folio 6 Page 5
Water End, Alwalton
CLARKE, Daniel, Head, Married, 27, Agricultural Labourer, born Alwalton Hunts
CLARKE, Millicent, Wife, 31, born Upton Northants
This could be them in 1871:
1871 Census
RG10 Piece 1514 Folio 5 Page 2
Mill End, Alwalton
CLARKE, Daniel Head, 38, Ag Lab, born Alwalton, Hunts
CLARKE, Mildred, Wife, 41, born Upton, Northants
(The name on the Schedule is "Mildred" but could well be an error by the Enumerator)
Can't find Elizabeth! Any more information about her, please?
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ivanidea
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Hello Kovel
Sorry but you have confused me!
The Elizabeth Dewberry living with George in Cambridge St Andrew is his wife - therefore her maiden name was probably not "Dewberry"!
Possible marriage for them:
Marriages Sep 1848
Cambridge Vol. 14 Page 9
BRANNAN, James
Burling, Charlotte
DEWBERRY, George
FROMANT, Caroline
Mott, Mary Ann
NORTH, Henry
WELCH, James
WHITE, Elizabeth
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ivanidea
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Hello Kovel
I think on the 1841 Census Eliza’s age is probably 4 not 8 although it could be 6. (Compare the entry for Eliza with that for the age of Ann Aveling on the opposite side of the page)
Regarding the elusive Eliza, the following data could be worth further investigation (despite the inconsistencies and "age" irregularities):
Free BMD
Marriages 4Q 1841
Huntingdon Vol. 14 Page 343
DEWBERRY, Martha
JONES, Ann
LOVELL, Frederick
PINION, John
ROSE, John
STOKES, Joseph
THOMPSON, Elizabeth
CAMDEX Marriages Index 1841
Martha DEWBURY
Reference: 333/CE5701/144/2
Huntingdon Registration District
Spouse’s Surname: PINION
CAMDEX Marriages Index 1841
John PINION
Reference: 333/CE5701/144/1
Huntingdon Registration District
Spouse’s Surname: DEWBURY
1851 Census
HO107; Piece 1748; Folio 36; Page 11
Middlemoor, Ramsey, Hunts
PINION, John, Head, 29, Agricultural Labourer, born Ramsey, Hunts
PINION, Eliza, Daur, 12, born Whittlesea, Cambs
PINION, Ann, Daur, 7, born Whittlesea, Cambs
PINION, Martha, Daughter, 5, born Whittlesea, Cambs
PINION, John Henry, Son, 3, born Whittlesea, Cambs
PINION, Charles Walter, Son, 1, born Ramsey, Hunts
(I wonder where Martha is?)
1861 Census
Glass Moor, Whittlesey, Cambs
RG09 Piece 1046 Folio 70 Page 16
PINION, John, Head, 41, Agricultural Labourer, Ramsey, Hunts
PINION, Martha, Wife, Married, 49, Ramsey, Hunts
PINION, Martha, Daughter, 15, Whittlesey, Cambs
PINION, John Henry, Son, 13 Whittlesey, Cambs
PINION, Charles W, Son, 12, Scholar, Ramsey, Hunts
1861 Census
RG09 Piece 1045 Folio 85 Page 38
Broad Street, Whittlesey, Cambs
BOULBEE, Mary A, Head, Widow, 57, Retired Surgeon Wife, Burton Overy, Leics
HOLDITCH, Susan T D, Niece, 13, Scholar, Pickwell, Cornwall
HOLDITCH, John P, Nephew, Unmarried, 18, Midshipman Merchant Navy, Dingley, Northants
CURTIS, Sarah, Servant, Unmarried, 35, House Servant, Cromer, Norfolk
PINION, Eliza, Servant, Unmarried, 23, House Servant, Whittlesey, Cambs
PINION, Annie, Visitor, Unmarried, 16, Dressmaker, Ramsey, Hunts
1871 Census
Glassmoor, Whittlesey, Cambs
RG10 Piece 1613 Folio 69 Page 6
PINION, Jno, Head, 53, Shepard, born Ramsey, Hunts
PINION, Martha, Wife, 59, born Ramsey, Hunts
PINION, Eliza, Daughter, 32, Dressmaker, born Whittlesey, Cambs
PINION, J Henry, Son, 23, Agricultural Labour, born Whittlesey, Cambs
PINION, C Walter, Son, 21, Agricultural Labour, born Ramsey, Hunts
1881 Census
RG11 Piece 1693 Folio 46 Page 1
Ponds Bridge, St Mary And St Andrew, Whittlesey, Cambs
PINION, John, Head, Married, 60, Shepherd, born Boston, Lincs
PINION, Martha, Wife, Married, 68, Shepherd's Wife, born Musheldeping (B.S.)The Netherlands
PINION, Martha, Daughter, Single, 34, Agricultural Labourer, born Whittlesey, Cambs
(John born Boston? Martha born The Netherlands!?)
CAMDEX Marriages Index 1874
Eliza PINION
Reference: 333/CE5501/14/2
Spouse’s Surname: GOODWIN
CAMDEX Marriages Index 1874
Thomas GOODWIN
Reference: 333/CE5501/14/1
Huntingdon Registration District
Spouse’s Surname: PINION
1881 Census
RG11 Piece 1693 Folio 46 Page 1*
Ponds Bridge, St Mary And St Andrew Whittlesey, Cambs
GOODWIN, Thomas, Head, Married, 29, National Schoolmaster, born Wigston Magna, Leics
GOODWIN, Eliza, Wife, Married, 40, born Whittlesey, Cambs
(*This is the same page as John and Martha Pinion)
1891 Census
RG12 Piece 1232 Folio 50 Page 17
Village Street, Peakirk, Northants
GOODWIN, Thomas, Head, Married, 39, Schoolmaster (Private), born Great Wigston, Leics
GOODWIN, Eliza, Wife, Married, 45 born Whittlesea, Cambs
1901 Census
RG13 Piece 2957 Folio 73 Page 5
39, Bull's Head Street, Wigston Magna, Leics
GOODWIN, Thomas, Head, Married, 49, Retired Schoolmaster, born Wigston Magna, Leics
GOODWIN, Eliza, Wife, Married, 60, born Whittlesey, Cambs
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ivanidea
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Hello, again, Kovel
Thank you for the information.
This is from CFHS (Cambridgeshire Baptisms):
1812
DEWBURY Martha
Age: 1m
bb. of Sophia & S.BERRIDGE
Parish: Whittlesey
1812
BERRIDGE, Martha
Age: 1m
bb. of Stamford & S.DEWBURY
Parish: Whittlesey
Are you sure that the Marthas are two different people? The details look very similar to me - enough to suggest that it could perhaps be the baptism of the same baby!
..... and the IGI "confusion" relates to "Submitted Records" which I have found to be notoriously unreliable.
Have you checked the actual registers?
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ivanidea
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Hello Kovel
This could relate to the Martha born 1808:
Cambridgeshire Baptisms
1808
BERRIDGE Martha
d. of William & Sarah
Whittlesey
Parish Records Collection - burial
Martha BERRIDGE
Date of burial: 1828
Age at death: 20
Calculated year of birth: 1808
Place of burial: Whittlesey
Dedication: St Mary
County: Cambridgeshire
ADDED
From CFHS Burials
1828
BERRIDGE Martha
Age 20
Abode: Peterborough Towns End
Parish: Whittlesey, St. Andrew
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ivanidea
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Hello Kovel
Your initial enquiry mentioned only Elizabeth Dewberry - there was no mention that Elizabeth may have been known as Eliza nor of the possible Berridge connection.
May I suggest, please, that if you seek assistance in your research you give all of the available information that you have otherwise there could be a tendency for those who seek to help you to be lead astray.
Eliza Dewberry Berridge is, of course, a possibility but there does not seem to be any corroboration. Also there has been no previous reference to Sophia having a daughter called Eliza. Eliza was, you indicated, the daughter of Martha Dewberry and James Jones. So it is all very confusing!.
Good Luck with your research.
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kovel
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Ivanidea,
Firstly I would like to say that I had very little to work with, my goal was to figure out who the elizabeth was in the census index being only six years, with who. As we were going through this process, I started to put peices I had together, hence the new info as we progressed through. Maybe I should of added all the possibilites first to the first request, but didnt expect to develop further this far. The info you gave has helped to put these together.
Sophia dewberry born 1791 had children with Stamford Berridge, these were Bapt Alice 1816, Eliza 1818, Martha 1812, Stamford 1821.
Eliza 1818 married Henry Aveling, confirmed by niece sophia on census, who was the dau of Stanford 1821
Martha 1812 had a daughter Eliza with James Jones bapt 1837
a bastard baby.
Martha later married John Pinion since found, born 11 Aug 1820 bpt 19 march saint mary-wesleyan huntingdon.
This info was in bits and peices until today as you filled in the gaps and eliminated possible others.
I was gathering info as you was putting it up, I was not looking to lead you a stray, I just did not have a clear picture.
This I must admit needs more work, but everything you gave me helped.
Iam often my own worst enemy as I tend to see one thing and ask another and dont consider the helper not thinking whats in my head.
I agree with everything you say, I am learning every day, trying to be more organized and better at doing this, but sometimes I get total confussed and get desperate. Sometimes I think I am to old for this.
Sorry, Best regards Kovel.
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