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Missing Collis family!
« on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Can anyone help me with unearthing an elusive character or two?

Looking for Deodatus Collis, father of John Thomas Collis, who was deceased by 1923.
His son,John,  married in London, Wandsworth, and Deodatus is listed as a 'Foreman' but I have no other info on him at all and cannot find anything.

Also, his son, John Thomas Collis.  Born c. 1897 (no idea where).  John is nowhere to be found after his birth - not managed to find any christening records or otherwise, nor census record.   Cannot find a mothers name for him.  John is described as an 'electrical wireman' on the only record I have, which is his marriage to Rosina C Clements in 1923, Wandsworth, London.  His marriage record states he is 26.

They both seem to disappear into thin air!
Any help with this would be much appreciated.
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Re: Missing Collis family!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:24 UTC (UK) »

what else does the 1923 Marriage Cert reveal?

Address, witness names etc ?

Can you post a partial image showing the section with Father 'Deodatus' please ?
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Re: Missing Collis family!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:30 UTC (UK) »

In the 1891 census Deodatus, wife Sarah and son William D. are at Mortlake Surrey.

RG 12 / 623 / Folio 90 / Page 12. The surname could be read as Collis or Callis.
4, Herbert terrace, Mortlake

Deodatus Callis/Collis, head, m, 27, Ground miner, Oxford Witney
Sarah do, wife, m, 32, Berks Hanney
William D. do, son, 2 mo., Surrey Mortlake

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:37 UTC (UK) »

beat me to it Jen, I was thrashing around Sussex due to a BMD index of a Birth in Brighton ...

LOL, it WAS the JT Collis from Brighton I found then  Roll Eyes

Looks like they made a few changes by 1901 (cant get at the image just now to verify Pobs and occupation):-

1901 - RG13/4529; Folio: 103; Page: 32 - Scarboro'
 
John Collins 37 Head Oxon, Wh~~~~
Sarah Collins 40 Wife Berks, Hay
William Collins 10 son Mortlake
Dorothy Collins 8 dau Middx, Finchley
Lizzie Collins 7 dau Essex, Clacton on Sea
John Collins 4 son Brighton, Sussex
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:40 UTC (UK) »

1901 census

Looks like the same family in Scarborough, enumerated as Collins, and Deodatus is calling himself John  Grin The family includes John born c. 1897.

RG 13 / 4529 / 103 / 32
7, Maryville Avenue, Scarborough

John Collins, head, m, 37, Foreman, Oxford Witney
Sarah do, wife, m, 40, Berks, Hany
William do, son, s, 10, Surrey, Mortlake
Dorothy do, daur, s, 8, Middx Finchley
Lizzie do, daur, s, 7, Essex, Clacton on Sea
John do, son, s, 4, Sussex, Brighton

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Re: Missing Collis family!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:46 UTC (UK) »

Snap - no red message, sorry  Grin
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Re: Missing Collis family!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:47 UTC (UK) »

No probs Jen - I hope they restore that feature !

Looks like they might be in Richmond, Surrey in 1911 ....
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:52 UTC (UK) »

1911 Census Index search reveals, living in Richmond Surrey

John Collis aged 50, born Witney
Sarah Collis aged 54 born Hanney
Florence Collis aged 38
William Collis aged 20 born Mortlake
John Collis aged 14 born Brighton
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 October 09 10:55 UTC (UK) »

The Deodatus name seems Oxon-related:-

1881 census:-

Deodatus Collis  c1803 born Finstock, Oxfordshire Head of House in  Darlaston, Staffordshire 

Deodatus Collis  c1839 born Coggs, Oxfordshire a Lodger in Hitcham, Buckinghamshire 
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:01 UTC (UK) »

1871 - RG10/1452; Folio: 5; Page: 2 - Cogges, Witney District
'Newland'

 
John Collis 36 Head Carpenter Oxon, Witney
Sarah A Collis 37 Wife Northmoor
John Collis 9 son Witney
Deadatus [sic] Collis 7 son do
Emma Collis 5 dau do
Amelia Collis 4 dau Cogg
Jane Collis 2 dau do

Marriages Dec 1859    
 
Collis  John    Witney  vol 3a page 1111   
Prater  Susannah     Witney  v3a 1111   
Russell  Joseph     Witney  3a p1111   
Wiggins  Sarah      Witney vol 3a page 1111



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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:02 UTC (UK) »

Deodatus Collis married Sarah Bosher, 2nd quarter 1889, St Saviour (Southwark) 1d, 130

William Deodatus Collis born 1st q. 1891, Richmond S. 2a, 415

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:17 UTC (UK) »

John Collis ('snr') was apprentice Carpenter to a Robert Green (Carpenter & Wheelwright) in 1851:-

1851 - HO107/1731; Folio: 569; Page: 5 - Oxfordshire, Ducklington
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:24 UTC (UK) »

already in that hamlet of Coggs in 1841 ... and had a bro' named Deodatus.

1841 - HO107/889/Book 12 Parish of Coggs (Witney district) District: 17; Folio: 30; Page: 24
'Newland'

all born in County
 
John Collis 35 Weaver
Sarah Collis 35
John Collis 5
Deodatus Collis 2
Elizabeth Collis 1
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:33 UTC (UK) »

next challenge - link up the Coggs/Witney Collis families  Wink

1841 - HO107/889/Book 12 Parish of Coggs;  District: 17; Folio: 26; Page: 16
'Newland'


all born in County
 
Deodatus Collis 30 Weaver
Deborah Collis 25
Thomas Collis 3
John Collis 1

Jane Redb/land 65
Maria Redband 25


I dont think the IGI has records early enough tho ....  Sad


Added: Plenty of 'submitted' records on IGI - take care!
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 October 09 11:46 UTC (UK) »

http://www.behindthename.com/name/deodatus
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