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Topic: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow (Read 628 times)
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Shellspacebabe
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I was very excited to open up this morning my great, great grandmother (Annie Moore) and g,g, grandfather's (Alexander Barron) marriage certificate (married in Dublin) and to discover her father was a clergyman whose name is Collins-Moore I cannot read his first name its almost impossible to decipher. Oddly though they are married in a registry office? (1874) now I find that odd that her father is a clergyman and she is marrying in a registry office. My g,g,grandfather was a bagpiper in the Scots Guards and is stationed in Dublin at the time of their meeting so maybe that is the reason? does anyone have any ideas or suggestions as to how common or why they may have married in a registry office? or know anything about Irish clergy in this part of Ireland. I am hoping at some stage to visit Wicklow but will need a bit more information before I do. Any help most gratefully received!
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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aghadowey
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Some ministers/churches at that time were not authorised to perform marriages under civil regulations so a civil marriage (registry office) had to take place and very often a separate ceremony would have been performed in the church. If you do find a newspaper announcement of the wedding it will most likely give church (rather than registry office) as place of marrage.
What's the bride's residence given on the marriage certificate?- this may help find her father.
Other thing to check is what Annie listed as her birthplace in any available census records.
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Shellspacebabe
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Do you know why some Ministers or Churches were not allowed to perform marriages? It seems strange I am probably showing my ignorance but I always believed there was only one religion in Southern Ireland being Roman Catholicism? I will have a good look at the marriage certificate the place of residence is hard to read its County Dublin, "something" House (will have a good look when I go home) The Census records I have checked to date are all in England and the place of birth for Annie is always Wicklow, Ireland
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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aghadowey
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Probably 3 'main' religions here in Ireland are Church of Ireland (also known as Established Church which is similar to Church of England/Episcopal), Roman Catholic and Presbyterian (which is again broken down into various ones such as Reformed Presbyterians, Succeders, etc.). There are also Methodists, Congregationalists, Baptists, Quakers, Brethern...
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aghadowey
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Not allowed to post full certificates here but bits can be posted for deciphering.
If you can scan it, then paste the bits with bride's residence and father's name we might be able to get something useful from it.
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Shellspacebabe
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thank you, I will do that tomorrow at work it would be a great help I have had another look and I really cant make it out at all
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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aghadowey
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Father of bride - Wm Collins? Moore clergyman
Residence of bride - 2 Eglinton Terrace R/B?__ghah? Co.Dublin
Line reads - 28 March 1881 on? license [not house]
Perhaps someone else will be able to figure out exact address on certificate.
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shanew147
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the word in the Brides's address look like Ranelagh to me...
there are three Eglinton Terrace listings in Thoms 1877
Clanbrassil Street Upper
Wellington Road
Royal Canal
Wellington Road is near Leeson Street and not far from Ranelagh.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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aghadowey
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2 Eglinton Terrace, Donneybrook Rd. (west of Herbert Park) is now a hostel or bed/breakfast- would this be the right area for Ranelagh, Shane?
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Shellspacebabe
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Thank you very much I am guessing WM is for William
"on license" ? does anyone know what that might mean
also there is a small 2. before the brides residence and below the photocopy i have of the certificate is a note which frustratingly wasnt copied properly by the gro in Ireland so I cant read it at all
Eglinton Terrace, Ranelagh do you know if it still stands? are the other roads etc you mentioned now in its place?
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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shanew147
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2 Eglinton Terrace, Donnybrook Rd. (west of Herbert Park) is now a hostel or bed/breakfast- would this be the right area for Ranelagh, Shane?
sounds about right - Donnybrook & Ranelagh are adjacent - I know the area, but this road doesn't ring a bell..
I've found a possible listing in the Ranelagh section of Thom's 1877
# 2 W.N.C. Moore. esq Eglinton Tce (Ranelagh Road)
next door at #1 is a Rev. Morgan W. Jellet M.A. L.L.D. curate of St. Peters
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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well I will keep digging for now thank you for all your help
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