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Topic: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow (Read 627 times)
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shanew147
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generally esq. means you were a gentleman of independent means, so you didn't have a trade as such..
I am not convinced yet that the current Eglinton Terrace is the same one as referred to on the marriage cert, as it is off Donnybrook village, whereas the Thom's listing definitely states that it is off Ranelagh road.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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aghadowey
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Yes, Shane, I think the one you've found is much more likely to be the one on the marriage certificate.
Shellspacebabe- could you give us exact date of marriage, please?
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shanew147
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Eglinton Terrace is likely the name of a group of houses, not a street, going by this- I've found a possible listing in the Ranelagh section of Thom's 1877
# 2 W.N.C. Moore. esq Eglinton Tce (Ranelagh Road)
next door at #1 is a Rev. Morgan W. Jellet M.A. L.L.D. curate of St. Peters
I think you're right with this.. my Grandfather had his Chemist shop on Ranelagh Road, but the actual address was Macgowan Terrace, and it has the same type of listing with Ranelagh Rd in brackets.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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Shellspacebabe
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would my great,gt,gt Grandfather (collins-moore) who is a clergyman be connected with St Pauls then going by the fact that at no.1. lived the Curator?
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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shanew147
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I listed the clergyman at #1 in case there was a connection, but there no indication in the listing that W.N.C is a clergyman. Usually there's is a prefix included (like Rev.) or initials etc after a name, plus he does not seem to be listed in the ecclesiastical section of the directory that I can find.
I think his surname is just Moore, rather than Collins-Moore
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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shanew147
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I'm not sure about the occupation question - could the address relate to another family member rather than her father. He could live somewhere else (or be deceased).
found a more details listing for the address in the 1894 editon :
2 W.N.C. Moore esq , B.A. (T.C.D.)
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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aghadowey
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Irish marriage certificates list name and occupation of father but don't always say if father is deceased. Wonder if WCN Moore could be a brother?
Found William Colles Moore living in Herbert Road, Dublin!
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_East/Herbert_Road/50162/
He's age 62, Church of Ireland, retired civil servant, born Co. Wexford
wife Mary Marcella Moore and 2 servants in household.
Very nice signature COLLES not Collins- from marriage certificate I couldn't be sure of father's middle name but Colles is now more likely
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shanew147
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I would guess that the Mr. Moore listed is possibly a younger man, seeing as it seems that between 1877 and 1894 he went to Trinity Collage and studied for a B.A.
I'll look in a few more of the directories this evening and see if I can find out any more. I'm sure I've seen or heard of Eglington terrace in Ranelagh - but cant remember where at the moment... that will bug me!
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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shanew147
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The Established church ecclesiastical section of Thom's 1852 lists a W.C. Moore as being posted in Carnew, diocese of Ferns.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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aghadowey
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Found this marriage which gives us location of Rev. Moore in 1859-
On Wednesday, 10th inst., in Lurgan Church, by the Rev. William Colles Moore, Rector of Carnew, Co. Wicklow, Wm. Liddell, Esq., Lurgan, to Georgiana, fourth daughter of Robert Morris, Esq., Lurgan.
www.irelandoldnews.com/Armagh/1859/18590813.html
Griffith's Valuation lists Rev. Wm C. Moore in Carnew.
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shanew147
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I'll have a look in Thom's 1863 and see if Wm snr had moved to Dublin at that stage.
this is looking very good - all the little clues are building up..
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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