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Topic: Help needed on Collins-Moore Clergyman from Wicklow (Read 622 times)
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aghadowey
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Just watch out here- I've now come across a Rev. Henry Moore in Carnew (no relation to Wm. Colles Moore that I can find).
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shanew147
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The William Colles Moore is listed on the census entry mentioned earlier as being born in Co. Wexford - but this could still fit as Carnew is in the south of Co. Wicklow and only a km or two from the Wexford boarder.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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Shellspacebabe
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It does seem to be coming together will your expert help. I know my G,G,Grandmother Annie Moore was born in Wicklow in 1852 so the William Colles Moore marriage in 1876 would be too late, so I think the William Colles Moore who died in 1866 may be the man. So that may mean that the William Colles Moore of Herbert Road, Dublin who is aged 62 a retired civil servant may be a different person and not my g,g,g,grandfather. So far I think we have a possible three William Colles Moore's the one who died age 58, the one living in Herbert Road and the one who is the rector of Carnew?
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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shanew147
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my guess is the William Colles Moore marriage and listing in Ranelagh in 1877 is Annie's brother, and he moved to Herbert Road sometime after 1894, and that Rev. W.C. Moore is their father and he moved to Ranelagh, which is in south Dublin district, sometime before his death in 1866.
just speculation at the moment - but seems to fit the facts so far.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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shanew147
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Thom's of 1863 lists Rev. Moore as :
W.C. Moore, Rural Dean, Rector of Carnew (Ferns)
There's no listing for Eglinton Tce - I dont believe it was built until after this. As far as I can tell this was towards the Canal end of Ranelagh Rd - nearly opposite Mount Pleasant Square.
Not sure how this fits.. but I found Eglinton Terrace, Ranelagh on the 1911 census and there's another William Moore at no. 2 (also born Co. Wexford) :
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Eglinton_Terrace/
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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aghadowey
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That latest William Moore is actually William N. C. More on the form (mis-transcribed as William R.C. Moore) so he might be the one connected to the address on marriage certificate.
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shanew147
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William N.C. Moore is listed at the same Ranelagh address in Thom's of 1914 and 1938 but is not listed on the Dublin City Electoral register of 1939 (http://www.dublinheritage.ie). An Anna Lucia Moore is listed at the address on the register - which would match with his wife listed as A.L. on the 1911 census.
No. 2 Eglinton Terrace was renumbered at some stage between 1914 and 1938 as many parts of Ranelagh were and became no 49 Ranelagh Rd.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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Shellspacebabe
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This has given me much food for thought and will certainly aid my visit to Ireland. Annie Moore married in 1874, I believe she was living with her brother (W.N.C.Moore) in Eglinton Terrace, by then Annie's father the Reverend William Colles Moore is deceased (died 1866 age 58 - volume 12 page 537). Later W.N.C.Moore moves to Herbert Road, Dublin he is married to Anna Lucia Moore, he has a degree, a B.A. from Trinity College in Dublin. Annie has moved to England with Alexander Barron a musician in the Scots Guards, my great grandfather Donald Ernest Barron is born in Chelsea Barracks and then he later produces my grandmother Annie Evelyn Mary Barron (my Father's mother). I will now look at the Carnew area. Sadly my father never saw his mother after the age of 5 due to a family split, my grandmother died in Enfield, London in 1988 I never met her, so to find out about her and her family has been very important to me, thank you both for all your help
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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Shellspacebabe
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Actually I may have the Herbert Road move wrong? perhaps W.N.C.Moore stays at Eglinton Terrace up until 1838, if thats the case I am not sure who is living in Herbert Road?
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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shanew147
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I've a suspicion, with no real basis, that the two Williams are related. It looks like the William Moore and his wife Anna Lucia in Eglinton Terrace stayed there until 1938. I'd love to find something that showed what this William's middle names are - if the C in his name is Colles, as the William in Herbert Road, then maybe they are cousins.
One more detail on Rev. W.C. Moore - he is listed in Thom's of 1848 as the incumbant in Carnew, diocese of Ferns.
Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin [Rush/Thomastown]
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Shellspacebabe
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Hello Shane
Yes I think they may be as you say cousins, i certainly have a lot more to go on now
I will next take a look and see if I can get my Great, great Grandmother (Annie Moore) birth certificate
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Cumbria: Hunter, Simpson, Glanville
Durham: Cook, Young
Somerset: Young, Cannon
Middlexsex: Barron, Holloway
Cornwall: Bonney, Truscott, Glanville, Brenton
Ireland: Colles-Moore
Scotland: Barron
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