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bedfordshire boy
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Paco wrote: "Probably married around 1844"
I can't see an obvious marriage 1837-45 on Freebmd. But in 1861 William was 46 and Sarah 44 so there's every chance that they could have had older children who had by then flown the nest.
In fact looking at them in 1851 aged 40 and 37 they did have two older children, James 13 and Martha 11, which pushes their marriage back pre 1837. But looking at 1841, in the same house as 1851, were William and Sarah, both 25 ie 25-29, with eldest daughter Mary aged 10, then John 8, Sarah 6, James 3, Martha 9 mths, which implies a marriage date of c1830.
With such a wide fluctuation in their ages census by census it seems as though they may have been born before 1816. I can't see a marriage for them on Phillimore's in St Andrew the Less, which is where they were living in censuses, nor on the BVRI at Gt Shelford. Which just leaves Hauxton, Sarah's parish - Hauxton marriages are not on the IGI, the BVRI or Phillimores - perhaps they're on the Cambs FHS Marriage Index CDrom, which I don't have. (There is a marriage of William Willis and Elizabeth Robinson on 10 Jun 1832 at Gt Shelford, which is probably irrelevant!)
Shows you need to look at a range of censuses before reaching a conclusion.
David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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Selina
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Can't see a suitable marriage on the 6th Edition of Cambs FHS Marriage Index CD.
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Selina
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This may have no connection but bits fit!
Baptism, St. Giles, Cambridge
1833 April 21 Willis John son of William and Sarah of Castle End brickmaker born 24 Match 1833.
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bedfordshire boy
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Sarah was living with William in Cambridge on 6 June 1841, so for it to have been William who married in Newmarket reg district in the Dec quarter 1841 Sarah would have had to have died June-Dec 1841, but there's no death in Cambridge in that short time frame. But why should we even be thinking that William should have married twice?
William was living in Cambridge from 1841 onwards, and probably from 1833. Even assuming that it was he who married in 1841 why would he have married someone from Hauxton, which is in Chesterton reg district, in Newmarket registration district? There's a Sarah Goult age 20, born in Suffolk, living in Gazeley Suffolk in 1841. Gazeley is in Newmarket registration district, so this may have been the Sarah Goult who married in 1841 - however there are three other females on that page, so there's no evidence that it was Sarah Goult who married William Willis. She doesn't fit the census evidence ie born Hauxton, Cambs, so on the face of it doesn't seem to be the right Sarah, wife of William, in 1851.
William and Sarah's implied birth years from the 1851 census, 1810/11 and 1813/4 respectively, are not inconsistent with a child born 1830/31
The problem is finding their marriage, and finding a baptism for William, if indeed he was baptised. Not another of your by now infamous non-conformists Roger? Using the Cambs FHS baptism index there are only a few Sarah's baptised in Hauxton at the right time that he could have married (assuming of course that she was baptised!) - getting the birth cert of one of their post 1837 children will give her maiden name.
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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