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Aaargh! Where IS she??
« on: Saturday 17 October 09 23:57 UTC (UK) »
I am tearing my hair out! I've been working on this brickwall since 1992 and she doesn't seem to exist before 1904.   Roll Eyes

Annie Lilian Bickish Shephard (24) married William Hipwell on the 20th Nov 1904 in Notting Hill. She names George Shephard, a carpenter (deceased) as her father.

They had 3 daughters (1909, 1910 & 1915)  in the Fulham area before her death in Hammersmith district in 1918.

I have not been able to find her in any of the censuses, so it was with great excitement that I looked at the 1911 in the hope of finding where she was born. But the blooming image was completely rotted away on the right hand side where that information was recorded!  Cry

The only thing I have found is that she was consistent with her age ( 24 in 1904, 31 in 1911, 38 in 1918), giving her an 1880-1881 birthdate.
Her husbands family were from the Hampstead and Kensington areas, in case she was known to the family before marriage.

All I can think is perhaps she was not born Shephard, but her mother remarried a George Shephard and she took on the name. Her middle name of Bickish seems to be no help whatsoever!  Roll Eyes

Anyone have any idea of what I can try next, as I have been going round in circles for so long now it's driving me crazy!!  Undecided
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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 October 09 10:46 UTC (UK) »
The only incidences of the name Bickish that I can find are/were in America. Is there a chance she could have been born abroad?
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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 October 09 10:55 UTC (UK) »
I don't want to put a damper on things but she may have made up the father's name for the sake of propriety if she was illegitimate.

I've had a look at the 1904 marriage on line and she fluffs her signature, maybe she wasn't 'confident' with the name.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 October 09 12:15 UTC (UK) »
Suffolk Sue might be on to something Wink

There is a Annie.L. Shephard, aged 10, born USA, New York, is on the 1891 Scotland Census, living with her Grandparents who are born in Scotland.
Sorry I have never posted Scottish Census info but if you just search on Anc. she should be easy to find.

Although I cant find the grandparents with a son George.

There is aso a Marriage;
George Alfred SHEPHARD
June 1877, Poplar 1c 977
On same page is an Ellen BICKERS

Trish Smiley

But I cant find them on 1881 Census.
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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 October 09 12:37 UTC (UK) »
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There is aso a Marriage;
George Alfred SHEPHARD
June 1877, Poplar 1c 977
On same page is an Ellen BICKERS

Ellen BICKERS married Samuel MANNING

George Alfred SHEPHARD married Maria SIMS

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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 October 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Ellen Bickers married Samuel Manning in 1877.


What information about Annie Lilian's maiden name is given on her three daughters' birth certificates. Is it consistently Shephard? Is Bickish included?

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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 October 09 13:12 UTC (UK) »
FreeBMD

Births Mar 1915 Fulham 1a 393
mother's surname - Shepherd

Modified my post as person may be living.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 October 09 13:21 UTC (UK) »
Is there any clue in the witnesses at the marriage.
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 October 09 14:07 UTC (UK) »
OOPS Embarrassed
Thanks Valda and Mick.
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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 October 09 16:59 UTC (UK) »
The witnesses in 1904 are

Arthur Griffin and John Hipwell

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 October 09 17:17 UTC (UK) »
Thank you so much for all your thoughts. I had never even considered her being born abroad Suffolk Sue! I'd been going down the illegitimate route like Dawn!

I only have one of her children's birth certificates, Doris Elizabeth (1910), and she gives Shephard as her maiden name (spelt with the 'a'). They were living in Shepherd's Bush at that time, so she was probably aware of the various spellings of Shephard!
No other mention of Bickish anywhere other than on the marriage certificate.

The other children were called Annie Jane and Ruby. The only names which could be 'family' names that I know of, are Annie (obvioulsy!) and Elizabeth which was her mother in law's name.

One of the witnesses was William's brother, I don't know who Arthur Griffin is. I suppose it'd be too lucky for him to be married to a sister of Annie!  Wink

She has always been recorded as "Annie Lilian" on official documents that I've seen (never just Annie) and as the informant on Doris' birth certificate she signed as A. L. Hipwell, mother.

I was so excited when I first got her marriage certificate and saw that long and unusual name too....!  Cry

Ok, off to check the Scottish censuses!  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 October 09 17:39 UTC (UK) »
Ok, the Annie Lilian born in the USA looks like being the daughter of John & Mary Shepherd (a commercial clerk), and living with her maternal grandparents in 1881, and paternal grandparents in 1891.

There was an Annie born in Scotland with a father named George, but he was a tobacco dealer!

That's my problem. The father just doesn't appear in the right combinations with the right occupation!

But you have found me another  marriage. Arthur Emmanuel Griffin married William's sister Emma Maria Hepwell in 1897!! Can't believe I missed that one!  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 October 09 19:17 UTC (UK) »
Sorry I just looked at the 1911 image again and she is just "Annie" on it, not Annie Lilian like a thought above.  Roll Eyes

According to it there was also another child born which didn't survive, and I can't find it either, at least in the Kensington/Fulham/Hampstead areas anyway.
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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 18 October 09 21:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi - Has Annie Lilian Shepherd, b Sept qtr 1879 in Aston, been ruled out?
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Re: Aaargh! Where IS she??
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 18 October 09 22:09 UTC (UK) »
Hi

She could be the 3 year old step daughter Annie Shephard of George(44) and his wife Annie Taylor (50) born South Wales. George was a brewer. There is also a stepson Frank Shephard aged 21

RG11 3044 folio 56

but it is confusing because in 1871 it is still George Taylor (39) a brewer and wife Ann (40)
with son Frank Shephard aged 10 and daughter Sarah Emily aged 12.

RG10 3157 folio 57

Ann was married to Thomas Shepherd in 1861 RG9 2183 folio 86 , son Frank no daughter Sarah Emily (who could be with her grandmother)

1891 census Annie was Annie Taylor daughter with George and Ann RG12 2434 folio 112

Sarah Emily is probably this marriage - looks like David Samuel was a widower

Marriages Jun 1886 
Shephard  Sarah Emily     King's N.  6c 618
either   
Jones  David Samuel    King's N.  6c 618   


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