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Philcandy
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*Completed*Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« on: Sunday 18 October 09 07:45 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone help me to find Henry Morris ROGERS, born about 1823, in the 1841 Census?

He claimed to have been born in Tewkesbury, but as he spent most of his married life in Worcester, I think perhaps his roots lie there.

According to his marriage certificate (he married Harriet CANDY in 1848 in Gloucester City) his father's name was Samuel, so I am looking for a Samuel Rogers, wife unknown and a Henry M ROGERS probably aged about 20 in 1841.

There's a possibility that Samuel's wife was surnamed ROGERS, and I have noted a ROGERS-MORRIS marriage at Great Malvern in 1822 on IGI. But this of course is just speculation.

Any help with this family would be most welcome.

Kind regards

Philip Candy
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 October 09 08:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Phil,

What were the occupations on the marriage cert.

Jim.
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 October 09 08:58 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jim

Samuel was a Tin Plate Worker, and Henry was an Ironmonger.

Thanks for asking

Phil
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 October 09 09:19 UTC (UK) »

I can't see them together, and this is the closest I can see to a Tinplate Worker.

1841. Barton Regis, Gloucestershire.
Samuel Rogers    45. Boiler Maker.
Elizabeth Rogers    35.
Elizabeth Rogers    15.
William Rogers    14.
Charlotte Rogers    12.
Sophia Rogers    7.
Louisa Rogers    4.
Samuel Rogers    11 Mo.
   
All born in County.
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 October 09 09:24 UTC (UK) »

That 1841 census would fit with this.

SAMUEL ROGERS.
ELIZABETH MORRIS.
Marriage, 18 AUG 1822. Great Malvern, Worcester.

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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 October 09 09:53 UTC (UK) »

1841. Broadway, Worcs.
David Burrows    15.
Henry Rogers    20. Occupation looks like Iron M. or W.

The household before on the image is occupied by a family of Morris's.
   
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 October 09 10:42 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much for all this.  It looks very promising, including the fact that Henry's first daughter was named Elizabeth Harriet: presumably Elizabeth after his mother and Harriet after his wife's mother.

I wonder if Samuel can be seen in 1851, which would give his and Elizabeth's places of birth?

I think you may have solved the problem for me. Thanks so much.

Phil Candy
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 October 09 12:16 UTC (UK) »

This looks like him, but Elizabeth's age is out.

1851. Redfield, Bristol St George, Gloucestershire.

Samuel Rogers    58. Boiler maker. born, Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire.
Elizabeth Rogers    60. born, Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire.

Its possible that Henry was born before they married, hence the Morris Rogers  name.
   
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 October 09 00:08 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jim

I actually found another candidate in Cramers Buildings in Bristol St George, which seems to fit the family names much better:

1851 census of St George, Bristol
CRAMERS BUILDING
ROGERS Samuel 55 Boiler maker Siston
Elizabeth 47 Gloucestershire Usk Monmouthshire
William 24 Boilermaker Gloucestershire St Georges
Charlotte 22 Dressmaker Gloucestershire St Georges
Sophia 17 Boot Binder Gloucestershire St Georges
Louisa 12  Scholar Gloucestershire St Georges
Samuel 10  Scholar Gloucestershire St Georges
George 8  Scholar Gloucestershire St Georges

So for the time being, I will go with this as the solution.

I have two other questions, please. I think that Henry Morris ROGERS's daughter Clara Jane married Benjamin BLAKE in 1881, and his eldest daughter Elizabeth Harriet married James Edward ROBINSON in 1879.

Can you see them in 1891? I think they were living in Worcester; but would you mind seeing if you can find them in 1891 as I don't have access to the Census returns for 1891?

Kind regards and thanks

Phil
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 October 09 08:12 UTC (UK) »

1891. 4, Landsdowne Villa's, South Claines, Worcs.

James E Robinson    39. Traveller China and Glass, born, Malborough, Yorkshire.
Elizabeth H Robinson    41. Gloucestershire.
Edward N Robinson    11.
Margret Robinson    10.
Mary W Robinson    7.
Martin F Robinson    5.
Laura A Thompson    14.
   
All others born Worcs.

Next door, no 3. could be related to James Edward.

Thomas Robinson    68. Carman, G W Railway. born, Stokesley, Yorkshire,
Margret Robinson    70. Ecclesfield, Yorkshire.
Margret A Robinson    38. Malborough, Yorkshire.
Willam H Robinson    35. Dudley, Worcestershire. Clerk Railway.
Alice E Robinson    28. Dudley, Worcestershire.
   
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 October 09 08:57 UTC (UK) »

I can't see Clara in 1891, but in 1901 Ben isn't with her.

1901. 3 York Place, Worcester.
Lucy M Facer    45.
Edith A Facer    19.
Lilian M Facer    16.
Ernest E Rossiter    22.
Clara J Blake    46. Married, Boarder. works for magazine own account, I think it says. born Gloucs.
Katherine H Blake    15.
Amy G Blake    11.
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 October 09 09:39 UTC (UK) »

1891. Upper Tything, Worcester, still no Ben.
Clare Jone Blake    36. Writer for Periodicals, Author. born Gloucs.
William Harriet Blake    5. says Daughter.
Anny Grtride Blake    1.

I can't make out if she is married or a widow.
   
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 October 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »

I can't see Clara in 1891, but in 1901 Ben isn't with her.

1901. 3 York Place, Worcester.
Lucy M Facer    45.
Edith A Facer    19.
Lilian M Facer    16.
Ernest E Rossiter    22.
Clara J Blake    46. Married, Boarder. works for magazine own account, I think it says. born Gloucs.
Katherine H Blake    15.
Amy G Blake    11.

Interestingly, this is the address where Clara's family were living in 1871 and again in 1881, so it's clearly the right person.

Thanks for this.

Phil
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Re: Henry Morris ROGERS - born about 1823
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 October 09 21:53 UTC (UK) »

1891. Upper Tything, Worcester, still no Ben.
Clare Jone Blake    36. Writer for Periodicals, Author. born Gloucs.
William Harriet Blake    5. says Daughter.
Anny Grtride Blake    1.

I can't make out if she is married or a widow.
   
Thank you for this Jim.  From the odd spelling it must have taken some careful detective work to find her in 1891.

From the look of the 1891 and 1901 index, Benjamin was still alive and living in Worcester, so this couple must have split up.

Anyway, I now have a much better idea about this family. Thanks so much for the lookup.

Kind regards

Phil
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