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russ_fae_fyvie
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Auchterless Church Records
« on: Sunday 18 October 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »

After a lot of help from Richard Moles, I have found out that my Great Great Grandfather, James Anderson, was born in Auchterless in October 1814.

Luckily even though we moved up from Chester to live in Fyvie 30 years ago, 8 miles from Auchterless without knowing anything about that, its scary we are now so close to his birthplace !

I just wondered if the Church would have any Parish Records showing his Parents details before I go over there.

Do the Churches still keep the records or do they send them away somewhere else ??

EDIT:
Just found his Parents, William Anderson and Elisabeth Robertson on Scotlands People.
What other records can I now search to find more details on his parents ?



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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 October 09 15:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Russ,

Have you tried the ANESFHS site. There is an index of memorial inscriprions, and a surname search as well. I've had a look at Auchterless and there is a few Andersons on there.

Follow the  MI Index link on the web page. Hope you have some luck.

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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 October 09 15:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anne

I went to the web site but couldnt find the search option, could you send me a link please

ta



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Found it !!!
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 October 09 21:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi,please check this link for more information,
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,399899.0.html
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 October 09 10:52 UTC (UK) »

The Kirk Session records for Auchterless are held at the National Archives for Scotland in Edinburgh under reference CH2/1334.

Church of Scotland records are normally held in Edinburgh under an agreement with the Church of Scotland.  Sometimes, though, records are held locally in a local archive.  It depends on the archive whether they hold Church of Scotland records.  Unfortunately, no Aberdeen County kirk session records are held locally, they are all held in Edinburgh.  However, there are plans to have the volumes available online at some point.  They have been digitised and as such it is not the original which is viewed in Edinburgh, it is their Virtual Volumes system.

If you do wish to view them, you could see if someone is going to Edinburgh and could maybe do a look up for you.
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 October 09 11:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi,if you go onto familysearch you will find information on this family. The IGI has the christening of James on 1 October 1814 in Auchterless. Parents are William Anderson & Elizabeth Robertson. There are a few entries for possible marriage dates but the only local one seems to be 14th Feb.1792 in King Edward parish.There are submitted entries for siblings. These should be treated with caution,but I suggest that the place names (Leggat & Lezzats) will be Seggat.As you live nearby you will know this is in Auchterless parish.By the way,I lived at Seggat until 1970!
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 October 09 12:57 UTC (UK) »

Cheers guys, thats good to know. I did notice that wedding was the only one that was close to Auchterless and that spelling of Seggat did put me off a bit because Leggat is somewhere over near Inverurie I think.

Thanks also for the reference at the National Archives, maybe a trip to Edinburgh could be one way to find more infor first hand.

Thanks again
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 October 09 13:17 UTC (UK) »

What other information are you looking for?
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 October 09 13:23 UTC (UK) »

Now I have found James I want to go back further, not sure how practical it is to find more info on his father, William.

Accoring to the ANESFHS records there are 4 Williams and 4 Elisabeths (or varients) buried in Auchterless Cemetry, just checking those now.

Would be nice to go back as far as is practical but not having done this before I don't know if there is a limit or if I have already found it.

It is good to know James was born only 8 miles from where we live now though !!
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 October 09 15:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I note you say you have n't done this before.This link will be of interest to you,
flst
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

I think it'd be worthwhile going to Auchterless Kirkyard on the next dry day, armed with a digital camera, & taking photos of any Anderson headstones. Often when searching for a particular grave you can stumble across ones of siblings,cousins,etc. The more information you can glean,the better the result! There may be placenames mentioned which could lead you to further information. e.g. an elderly person may have died at the home of another relative. You may be able to trace back through the censuses to 1841,or even further through the  IGI.
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 October 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »

Just had another thought - the index to wills & inventories on scotlandspeople has a few Andersons from Auchterless in it. Once you're further on with your research you may recognise the names & places mentioned.
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 October 09 18:36 UTC (UK) »


Cheers guys, thats good to know. I did notice that wedding was the only one that was close to Auchterless and that spelling of Seggat did put me off a bit because Leggat is somewhere over near Inverurie I think.

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Hi russ_fae_fyvie

If I only had a £1 for every time I've come across a situation involving an index entry where the initial capital letter has been misread.   Grin

S/L, L/S is a common problem.

I still don't know if one of my 3g-grandparents' surname was HAY or KAY !


Somewhere on RootsChat you'll find a listing of such confusions that many of us have come across over the years.


I'm still in the "recovery phase from the shock" from a mis-transcription that I came across a few days ago on ScotlandsPeople, - the 1851 census, - where HAWTHORN has been transcribed as McTHOM.  Not least in the sense that this wouldn't have surprised me at all on Ancestry, but, in general, the SP indexes contain many fewer such mistakes.

I have to be very honest and say that, in this case, I really sympathize with the transcriber/data inputter, as it does really look like the surname ends ".....Thom" ..... and the start of the surname could easily be seen as "Mc" .................

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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 October 09 12:22 UTC (UK) »

With a lot of help at the Aberdeen Family HIstory place in King Street we have found more info.

flst you are right, William and Elisabeth Robertson were married in King Edward on the 14th Feb 1792 and they had 8 children in Auchterless, James being the last one in 1814 (This trait runs in the family because James himself had 9 !).

Now I want to see how far back I can go with William but so far the web searches are throwing not much up.

Still at least we have managed to confirm the family originated from a place only 8 miles from where we live now !
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 October 09 16:26 UTC (UK) »

Glad to hear you've been to the FHS.in Aberdeen.(I'm a life member.)
While you were there did you look up the inscription on stone no.30 at Auchterless Church? I note that both Elisabeth & William Anderson died in 1829.
Were their ages recorded on the stone? That would assist in tracing their births in the I.G.I.
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Re: Auchterless Church Records
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 22 October 09 20:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi
We did look through all the Andersons in their index but can't remember looking at 30.
We didn't find any reference to William or Elisabeth that were relevant on the ones we looked at, where did you find the info on their deaths in 1829 ?

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