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Topic: JAMES GREEN 1828 Bedford Leigh, please? (Read 194 times)
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Sue Lancashire
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Hello from New Zealand,
My first visit to the Lancashire board.
I am hoping to confirm the birth of my GGGGGrandfather. Much later Census information for St Oswalds Chesire suggests his birth year as 1828, Bedford Leigh.
His father is also James Green, "Clockmaker". Mother and siblings unknown as yet.
The IGI has several entries for James Green; fathers are also all James Green and all married to Mary's!
I am fairly new to PRE 1837 research.
I am hoping someone may have access to the records which may include an occupation for the father?
I cannot think of any other way to confirm his parentage and birth?
Any advice or tips will be gratefully accepted.
Haere Mai from New Zealand, Sue McIntosh.
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Duck
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Please ignore this post, I had just asked Sue a stupid question, making an idiot of myself once again 
I take it you have James's Marriage Certificate ?
Regards
Simon
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Sue Lancashire
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Yes, I have James Green Junior's marriage certificate for 1852, the 26th January. He does not specify his age, just "of full age". Thank you for reading.
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garstonite
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When you say St Oswalds Cheshire, Sue, is that the name of a village or a church...if it`s a church, do you know which village ?...also where was James Jr married...if it`s in cheshire let us know which village please..it may be on CPRDb ....allan
Just checked....James Jr marriage not on CPRDb
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oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire...... sacht,helgoland .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis.. jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford
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Sue Lancashire
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Thank you for reading!
James was living in the St Oswald area of Chester at the time of his marriage 1877.
He married at the Parish church of Birkenhead in the county of Chester. This is how I gained his father's name and occupation.
His census details around this time give his birth area as Bedford, Leigh or Leigh Lancashire.
I hope I am doing all the right things to find his birth details and therefore parentage.
Your help is appreciated! Thank you!
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garstonite
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Would that be St Oswalds, Backford,Chester  ....I was there last year as my family are from there....if it is , just to let you know the vicar informed me that the church holds NO records there now...they are all in the Chester records office....back soon...allan
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oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire...... sacht,helgoland .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis.. jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford
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garstonite
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Hiya Sue....I have found this on IGI.....may not be yours but then again it might be..
Christening 8th June 1823 in Bedford Leigh,Lancashire,England of James Green...Parents John Green and Jane ..........if you think this may be your James (this is submitted , not extracted) let us know...we may find John Green and Jane ? marriage...allan 
ADDED...could the census record that states James Green b 1828 actually read 1823....the 8 and the 3 having been misread ....allan
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mosiefish
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Hi,
If you have access to the 1851 census take a look at a James Green aged 50, Clockmaker and Publican Born Lancs Astley living at St. Oswald Chester 
some children were born Bedford Lancashire. My money is on this chap although it does look like he is on his second wife, unless she has knocked a few years of her age.
HO107/2172 folio 131 page 4
If you need it transcribing let me know. By the way your James is only a few houses away on page 5.
Regards,
Mo
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mosiefish
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Hi,
I am fairly sure that this is the same family in the 1841 census living in Bedford Lancashire but James Snr is not there:
HO107/513/6 folio 11 page 15.
Chappell Lane, Bedford, Leigh, Lancashire
Ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 0 or 5.
All born in County
Mary Green, 20, Furniture Dealer
JAMES, 13, Cotton Factory
Elizabeth, 7,
Margeret?, 4
Robert, 2
Easter, 1
Easter Green, 60.
Regards,
Mo
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Cancan
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Hi,,
Leigh St Mary the Virgin Church
James Green bapt 25 April 1830 parents James and Mary Bedford father occup; Labourer.
Is this him?
Was at Manchester Library today and took a look found other Green bapts with same parents but in different areas and occupations. Also records missing from May 1827 - Oct 1828
Cancan
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Sue Lancashire
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Thank you so much everyone for all your help!!!
Awesome result! I have a wealth of recommended sites and tips.
Thanks for finding James Green senior on the 1851 census... I have now ordered a copy of his 2nd marriage cert, hopefully his father will be revealed - what luck!
Also the children's names and birth years here all tie in with the 1841 census, in Bedford.
Brilliant results, thanks for being so friendly and informative....
Lancashire folk are the salt of the earth!
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