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mevans
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Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« on: Monday 19 October 09 18:30 UTC (UK) »
Hello Folks,
having found Owen Morgan at Mill St Llantrisant on the 1911,he is with wife Catherine & 4 daughters. Owen is aged 53, a coal hewer born NEATH Glam.   I have also found them on the 1901 still in Mill Street. But earlier sightings are a nightmare....FMP just not seem to like the name OWEN !!!  HELP !! Can anyone please help me find this chap Huh??
Any help will be much appreciated by an old woman in the Midlands !

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Margaret.
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 October 09 18:55 UTC (UK) »
Hi
Please give more info what year did he marry? If you have his marriage certificate what was his fathers name? and where did they marry?
what was his childrens names? all helps to build a picture so we know who we are looking for.
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 October 09 20:27 UTC (UK) »
Hi
The 1901 has him aged 42, born Glyn Neath so this could be him in 1871

Star Inn, Mount Pleasant
Llewellyn Morgan head 49 farmer and publican Glamorgan Rhigos
Hannah ditto wife 43 Glyn Neath
Morgan ditto 19 farmers son Glamorgan Rhigos
Thomas ditto son 14 ditto Glyn Neath Glamorganshire
Owen ditto son 12 scholar ditto
Llewellyn ditto son 10 ditto ditto
John A ditto son 8 ditto ditto
+3 servants

RG10 piece 5431 folio 69

(good if someone checks the place names for me Grin)
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 October 09 20:33 UTC (UK) »
Hey gardener
nice find, that could well be him Rhigos is not far from Glyn Neath just up the valley.
cheers cardiff
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 October 09 20:35 UTC (UK) »
1881
Llanwit Lower
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Llewellyn Morgans head 59 general labourer
Hannah ditto wife 53
Thomas ditto son 24 coal miner
Owen ditto son 22 diito
Llewellyn ditto son 20 ditto
John anthonay ditto 15 general labourer
+ two boarders

RG11 5342 folio 35 page 19
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 October 09 22:10 UTC (UK) »
Do you have the family on the 1861

Resolven 1861

Star Inn
Llewellyn Morgans  HD  40  Farmer+Innkeeper    born Glam Rhigos
Hannah....................W  34                                    born Glam Resolven
Morgan.....................S  10  Scholar                                     born Rhigos
Jennet.......................D  8 ----------                                        ...............
Thomas.....................S   5----------                                         ..............
Owen........................S   3                                                     ..............
Llewellyn...................S   6 months                                        ..............

And three servants

Best Wishes Bethan
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mevans
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 17:27 UTC (UK) »
Thank you all SO MUCH ! I am certainly a step nearer now to finding the family of Owen Morgan thanks to your help. As yet I do not have a marriage cert for Owen & Catherine, but I do know they married Dec Qtr 1892 Llandilofawr. Catherine's maiden name was JONES ( feel free to be sorry for me trying to sort that family tree out )!! Once again thank you for all your help..it is much appreciated.

Margaret.
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mevans
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 17:41 UTC (UK) »
I am back again asking for help with this family. I have looked at the census info you so kindly gave me...I am happy enough that this is indeed the correct family I am tracing on the 61/71/81..but because FMP does not yet  have a complete 1851 census I am asking for help with whatever info there is on Ancestry for the whereabouts  of Llewellyn Morgan & his wife Hannah on the 1851. I have found the marriage of HANNAH RICHARDS & LEWELYN MORGAN June Qtr 1850 in NEATH so they should be together in 1851. Many thanks in advance.

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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 19:32 UTC (UK) »
Hello Margaret,

I think that I have found Llewellyn and Hannah living in Cwm Hwnt, Rhigos.

Morgan Llewellyn      HD   M  30    Publican c1821
Morgan Annah           WI   M  23               c 1828
William Thomas          VR   U   30   SMITH  c 1821
Evan Jane                  VR   U   21   Servant c 1830
Griffiths Mallyde (Female) VR U 23              c1828

All born in Glamorgan.

Hope this helps.

Chris.
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN : COMPLETED>
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 21:10 UTC (UK) »
 Chris... I really appreciate you taking the time & trouble to do this lookup for me....thank you so much for this info. Thanks again.

Margaret.
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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 October 09 07:40 UTC (UK) »
Hi Margaret,

Found Llewellyn in 1841 living at Cwm Hwnt. (District name Merthyr Tydfil. Rhigos Hamlet)

Morgan Morgan         55   Miner
Elizabeth Morgan      55
Thomas Morgan         20
Llewellyn Morgan       15

All born in Glamorgan.

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Re: Where is OWEN MORGAN on the 1891/1881/1871 ?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 October 09 17:03 UTC (UK) »
BRILLIANT ! My thanks to you once again Chris for this invaluable help with this family...appreciated.

Margaret.
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