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Topic: JackieQld_au Scavenger Hunt......Everyone Welcome To Join In (Read 494 times)
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Tephra
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Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt......I think you might have fun with this one.
Good Luck and Good Hunting
Barbara
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I’m searching for John William HOOPER’s marriage to Ann, or Annie SULLIVAN.
According to his death cert. he died 24th July 1897 in Clifton Hill, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
He was a brassfounder aged 61 years.
Father: John HOOPER, Coach Plater
Mother: Unknown
Born: London, England
He had been in Victoria for 32 years.
He married at age 22 in London to Ann SULLIVAN
Informant: John William HOOPER (son) Age 38 years.
There are no other issue from the marriage.
I’m taking an educated guess at saying that Ann had a say in the information given, for on her death cert. (Informant the same person) it states “not known” for the marriage information.
According to the death cert. of Ann, she was 79 years old on 15th October 1912.
She had been in Victoria, Australia for 48 years and was born in Limerick, Ireland.
Parents were unknown. Cemetery records and her headstone say Annie HOOPER.
However, so saying that…
There is only one John HOOPER who almost perfectly matches the information on the 1861 Census.
John HOOPER, head, age 23, Brassfounder, b. Lambeth
Ann HOOPER, wife, age 22, b. Lambeth
John HOOPER, son, age 2 or 3, b. Lambeth
I can’t find the marriage of John (William) HOOPER to Ann SULLIVAN.
I can’t find the birth of their son, John (William) HOOPER.
I can’t find the family coming to Australia.
Further research led me to believe that my John William HOOPER was in fact b. 6th April 1838 Lambeth. He was the eldest of John William HOOPER and Elizabeth COPP.
I’ve been in contact with descendants of his siblings in England and they originally said that John disappeared off the face of the earth. They believe their missing John is my John. John’s siblings were also in the brass trade. It all seems to match.
In summary…
John William HOOPER 1st mar. Elizabeth COPP
John William HOOPER 2nd mar. Ann SULLIVAN
John William HOOPER 3rd was informant on both his parents death certs.
There is a John William HOOPER 4th but I have his details.
I’ve got birth cert. and death cert. for JW2
I have death cert. for Ann.
I just can’t find their marriage or birth of their son, JW3.
If anyone can help, I’d appreciate it.
Jackie
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deeiluka
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Here's John William Hooper Senior's marriage in case you don't have it, Jackie....but I can't see a marriage for son John. 
John William Hooper married Elizabeth Copp on 31st October 1837 at Saint Mary At Lambeth
Fathers’ Names = William Hooper & Josiah Copp
Dee
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toni*
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why do you think that .......
There is only one John HOOPER who almost perfectly matches the information on the 1861 Census.
John HOOPER, head, age 23, Brassfounder, b. Lambeth
Ann HOOPER, wife, age 22, b. Lambeth
John HOOPER, son, age 2 or 3, b. Lambeth
I’ve been in contact with descendants of his siblings in England and they originally said that John disappeared off the face of the earth. They believe their missing John is my John. John’s siblings were also in the brass trade. It all seems to match.
..........he doesnt belong to you ?
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deeiluka
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why do you think that ....... There is only one John HOOPER who almost perfectly matches the information on the 1861 Census.
John HOOPER, head, age 23, Brassfounder, b. Lambeth
Ann HOOPER, wife, age 22, b. Lambeth
John HOOPER, son, age 2 or 3, b. Lambeth
I’ve been in contact with descendants of his siblings in England and they originally said that John disappeared off the face of the earth. They believe their missing John is my John. John’s siblings were also in the brass trade. It all seems to match.
.......... he doesnt belong to you ?
Toni......I think he does....or at least, that's what Jackie and the other family think. 
Dee
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deeiluka
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Thisa is the Hooper family in 1851.....
HO107/ 1570/ 251/29
Lambeth, Surrey, England
John Hooper 35 Plater born Bloomsbury
Elizabeth Hooper 38 born Bloomsbury
John Hooper 13 Errand Boy
William Hooper 11
Elizabeth Hooper 9
James Hooper 4
Children all born Surrey.
But I can't find them in 1841!
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deeiluka
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Sorry Toni......I'm unsure what Jackie has or hasn't..... 
I can't see a marriage of John 2nd and Ann/Annie though.
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Maddie
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Hi
Hope this doesn't confuse the issue but there is a marriage on the LMA for a John William Hooper to an Ann Fraser, Jan 21st 1861 in St Marys Newington.
He is a brass moulder & his father is a Coach & Harness Maker.
Do you think this fits.
Maddie
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James R. Yeowell
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I wouldn't rule out that John William Hooper and Ann Fraser marriage.
He is a brass moulder, which is the correct occupation and his father is also a John William Hooper (who happens to be a Coach and Harness Maker -- this fits too). Plus the marriage date fits as well.
Ann Fraser could easily be Ann Sullivan, especially as she does not indicate her father's name on your records.
Also, if that is the couple on the 1861, then the son, John William Hooper would have been born before they married, so he may be registered under a different surname.
Addendum: There is a christening for a John Sullivan, son of Ann Sullivan on 6 January 1861 in Stepney. It probably is not your man though.
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Ward (Surrey: Lambeth; London: Bloomsbury, Westminster)
Stevens (London: Paddington; Oxfordshire: Oxford)
Hold (Surrey: Newington; London: Winchmore Hill)
Ginger (Hertfordshire: Great Gaddesden, Flamstead)
Chidwick (London: Paddington; Buckinghamshire: Chalfont St. Peter)
Parrett (London: Paddington; Hampshire: Romsey; Wiltshire: Fisherton Delamere, Dinton, Broad Chalke)
Davis (Oxfordshire: Oxford)
Clarkson (Surrey: Newington)
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regross
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Hi all
on Free BMD in dec qtr 1857 in Poplar London there is an entry for Ann Sullivan, however there is only one male name on the page. Same thing for dec qtr 1859 Whitechapel more female names than male names.
In Shoreditch for the same qtr there is a John Hooper listed as 1 of 2 males, and only one female name
While both 1857 entiries seem to be in volume 1c they are many pages apart.
regards
Robyn
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Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon, Scotland;
Arnold, Morton: Ireland;
Davies:Wales;
Olcorn:Cumberland;
Osborne: Staffordshire;
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