Welcome, Guest. Please login or register for free.
Did you miss your activation email?
Sunday 29 November 09 04:17 UTC (UK)
Welcome Home Help Surnames Library Shop Search Login Register

+  RootsChat.Com
|-+  Beginners
| |-+  Beginners
| | |-+  thomas scott & sophia
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 Print
Author Topic: thomas scott & sophia  (Read 147 times)
g forgeron
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 16


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


thomas scott & sophia
« on: Tuesday 20 October 09 15:51 UTC (UK) »

Thomas Scott's death is registered in Stamford,77 in 1866. His wife Sophia also died in Stamford 80 in 1869. I'm trying to establish her maiden name and where and when they were married. I've only just joined RootsChat and I'm not too sure how this all works. Am I doing it correctly?
Logged
lizdb
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 9414



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 15:56 UTC (UK) »

Hello, welcome and yes you are doing fine!

Rather than jump straight from their deaths to their marriage it might be best to go one step at a time and work back through the censuses, to trace their movements if any and see what family they had etc.
Before we start hunting, can you say if you have already got them in 1861, 51 ,41 censuses?
Logged

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
lizdb
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 9414



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:02 UTC (UK) »

Here is 1861 in case you havent got it

RG9 2313 68 17
Collyweston
Thomas Scott 72 slaters labourer bn Colyweston
Sophia 73 wife bn Peterborough
John Hand son in law 48 slaters lab bn CW
Sophia Hand 34 dtr bn CW
Eliza Hand 3 grandautr bn CW
Susan hand 1 grandtr bn CW

Logged

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
genjen
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3219



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:02 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

Liz, I am thinking the same way as you and have found them in 1861....

Rg9/2313/68/17
Colly weston, Northants ( Stamford Reg District)

Thomas Scott, 72, Head, Slater's  labourer, born Colly Weston
Sophia, 73,                                             Peterborough
John Hand, son in law, 48,   "         "        Colly Weston
Sophia, 34, dau                                              "
Eliza Hand,3  gdau,
Susan "      1,  "

Jen

Sorry - bring back the red notices, please!!
Logged

Essex: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow DUCK Spurden HARMONY
N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
lizdb
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 9414



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:03 UTC (UK) »

Sorry - bring back the red notices, please!!

No probs!
Are you doing 1851?

I'll take a squint at 1841!
Logged

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
g forgeron
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 16


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:07 UTC (UK) »

All I have is the birth of their son Valentine Scott 14th April 1828, registered in Collyweston. Unlike Scotland a birth certificate in England gives no details of the parents marriage or the mother's maiden name, hence my frustration. I have no census details Many thanks for the prompt reply
Logged
lizdb
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 9414



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:08 UTC (UK) »

1841
Colley weston

Thomas Scot 50 Slater Y
Sophia 50 Y
John 20 Y
Sophia 15 Y
Valentine 10 Y
Isabelah 8 Y
John Welbon 5 N
Emma Scot 2 Y       (not sure if last two are same household or not - bit young to be living on their own!)
Logged

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
lizdb
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 9414



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:12 UTC (UK) »

All I have is the birth of their son Valentine Scott 14th April 1828, registered in Collyweston. Unlike Scotland a birth certificate in England gives no details of the parents marriage or the mother's maiden name, hence my frustration. I have no census details Many thanks for the prompt reply

An English birth certificate would give mothers maiden name, but Valentine was born before Civil Registration started, so there were no birth certs then.
Do you know if they had any children after 1837? they may have been a bit old by then.
I'll see if 1851 shows any - 1841 doesnt give relationships so it is unclear if Emma age 2 is theirs or not.

Logged

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
genjen
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3219



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:12 UTC (UK) »

A birth in 1828, in England, wouldn't have been registered or have a certificate. That didn't start until 1837 ( Scotland was 1855).

So what you have is is likely to be Valentine's baptism, which would normally give the father's name but not necessarily the mother.

At least you know that they were in Colley Weston in 1841 and there should be a chance of finding the marriage in the parish records.

Liz,  I had gone for 1841 as aswell!

Jen
Logged

Essex: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow DUCK Spurden HARMONY
N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
lizdb
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 9414



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

Here is 1851 (have you got it too Jen?!)

But it isnt much help - as I am sure Sarah is NOT their daughter!

HO107 2094 43 1
Colleyweston
Thomas 63 slater lab bn CW
Sophia 63 bn Peterborough
Sarah 5 dtr bn London Middx

(Inotice there is a Rachel Scott next door but one - I am sure I saw her there on another census too)
Logged

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
genjen
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3219



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:21 UTC (UK) »

1841
Colley weston

Thomas Scot 50 Slater Y
Sophia 50 Y
John 20 Y
Sophia 15 Y
Valentine 10 Y
Isabelah 8 Y
John Welbon 5 N
Emma Scot 2 Y       (not sure if last two are same household or not - bit young to be living on their own!)

I assumed John and Emma were in the same household and that they might be granchildren. Emma's birth ought to be registered....
Logged

Essex: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow DUCK Spurden HARMONY
N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
lizdb
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 9414



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:22 UTC (UK) »

Lots of submitted entries on IGI for Scotts in Collyweston - worth a look but remember submitted entries can be pure fiction sometimes
www.familsearch.org
Logged

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
genjen
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3219



Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:28 UTC (UK) »

It might be worth posting a new query on the Northamptonshire Look-up Request board. There could be someone who is able to check the parish registers for Thomas and Sophia's marriage.


Jen
Logged

Essex: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow DUCK Spurden HARMONY
N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
g forgeron
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 16


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:35 UTC (UK) »

What does the "Y" stand for after the names in the 1851 census and also the "N"
Logged
g forgeron
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 16


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: thomas scott & sophia
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, that should be 1841 census
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 Print 
« previous next »


[Copyright] [Shrink Link] [About Us] [Terms of Use]
All Census Lookups are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes only
RootsChat.com cannot be held responsible directly or indirectly for the messages or content posted by others. Inline images in messages are the copyright of the respective linked sites.
RootsChat.com, Europa House, Bury, Lancashire, BL9 5BT

In loving memory of Eric George Davies, 1934-2009, the father of RootsChat.com































Powered by SMF 1.0.7 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC
0.044:19