Emma-Jane
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Hello, I've been trying to find information about Samuel Jaggard but have not had much luck.
I was wondering if I ordered the PR from the CFHS ... is ALL the same information available on Ancestry, ie: would anything in the PR cd-rom from CFHS NOT already be on Ancestry? Apologies for my ignorance.
What I know about Samuel is he was born in either Kirtling or Dullingham in 1743, married Elizabeth Aves (Eaves) 1767 in Dullingham. What I need to try and find is his parents.
If anyone could help that would be wonderful.
My thanks
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bedfordshire boy
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How do you know he was born in 1743 in one of those parishes?
Ancestry seems to have what's on the BVRI, which is the same format as the IGI - baptisms: name, parents if named, date and parish; marriages: names, date and parish. The transcript will give any other detail in the parish register eg parishes of residence and witnesses in the case of post 1754 marriages.
But whilst there are numerous Jaggard baptisms in Dullingham there's no Samuel, and there are no Jaggard Baptisms at all in Kirtling, on the BVRI.
So your first job is to check Dullingham parish register to see if Samuel's parish of residence was mentioned. You might consider posting a request on the Cambs Look ups board
David
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tempsford
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Hi,
Details of marriage from parish registers, Samuel Jaggard and Elizabeth Aves, sp marr 18 Nov 1767. Wits John Aves and John Browne. No further info is included.
According to the Cambridgeshire baptism index, there are no Samuel Jaggard's baptised in the 1740's. The nearest one was 13 Aug 1726 in West Wratting, son of William and Frances.
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Emma-Jane
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Hello David and thank you for replying.
I have the information from a search of the online documents at the Cambridgshire Archives. The information given is this :
PS/E/AS16/14 5 November 1781 Contents : Samuel Jaggard, 36, wife Elizabeth and family. Born in Kirtling, worked for John Eaves of Dullingham, farmer, berfore marrying his daughter. Rented a farm from John Poole of Burwell.
The date should be 1745, my mistake. It is a settlement document I believe. But of course It may not be accurate.
Do you know anything about these kind of documents, are they usually accurate? Thank you for looking on the BVRI. You didn't notice a Lettice or Letitia Jaggard by any chance? That is their daughter, born Dullingham I believe.
I'm not sure what to do about Samuel now.
Many thanks
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Emma-Jane
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Hello Tempsford thank you. Does this mean Samuel wasn't born in Cambridgeshire at all? I will look at Suffolk and London. Maybe he will be there 
Thank you so much for your time
Emma-Jane
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It looks like a settlement examination, to establish his parish of settlement. I'd say it was very reliable. Your problem seems to be that there are no Jaggard baptisms in Kirtling, other than three in the late 1600s. I'd check to see what burials if any there were there in the 1700s which might give a clue as to Samuel's parents. As the marriage showed him as otp and he seems to have spent his life in Cambs, even if you found a Samuel in Suffolk or anywhere else in the country how can you link him to Kirtling? It probably means he was born in Cambs and either wasn't baptised. or was non-conformist or even that the parish register is missing.
I would get a copy of the settlement examination to see what else it says. I would also see if Cambridge Records office hold any wills for any Jaggard in Kirtling and Dullingham to see if a son Samuel is named in any of them.
Lettice, daughter of Samuel & Elizabeth Jaggard was baptised at Dullingham on 8 Aug 1780.
David
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tempsford
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Hi,
Children of Samuel and Elizabeth from Dullingham registers
Elizabeth Jaggard bap 16 Jun 1769 bur 9 Oct 1769
Samuel , bap 17 Aug 1770
John, bap 10 Sep 1772 bur 12 Jun 1773
Elizabeth bap 27 Sep 1773
Mary, bap 26 dec 1774
Frances, bap 12 Aug 1776
Susannah, bap 10 Nov 1777
Lettice, bap 8 Aug 1780
Robert, bap 1 Feb 1784, The entry reads that Samuel was a collectioner, which I believe means parish relief.
There is also an entry in the burial register for a Samuel Jaggard, calf jobber bur 26 Jul 1785.
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Emma-Jane
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Thanks David that's excellent information and advice. I wasn't sure what the settlement information was but you cleared that up, thank you. Do you think the actual document will have anymore information? Is it usually just a summary? Too many questions, sorry.
You mentioned the marriage said he was otp. Does that mean Dullingham as he was married there? I know they aren't very far away from each other.
I will get in touch with Cambridge Records Office and see how I get on.
You have been very helpful and kind, thank you
Emma-Jane
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Emma-Jane
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Tempsford  thank you!!
You're a star, that's excellent. What's a calf jobber :S
Thank you again
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tempsford
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Hi,
I think I've found Samuel's baptism. Samuel Jagard bap 13 Feb 1743 in Kirtling. Son of John and Mary.
No idea about a calf jobber!
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tempsford
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Hi,
Possible marriage for samuel's parents
John Jaggard, bac, otp marr Mary Prewer, sp, otp. 12 Apr 1741 in Dullingham.
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Emma-Jane
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Tempsford
What comes above a star? Whatever it is you're it! Thank you thank you thank you.
And thank you!
Parents too. I've gone all weak at the knees
Thank you so much
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tempsford
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Hi,
I'm happy just being a star! Seriously, glad to have helped.
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I wonder why this is missing from the BVRI. Perhaps it was taken from the BT, or has been so badly mangled in transcription that it's in one of the other 12 CDroms under a different letter rather than H-J.
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Hi David,
Its probably been mistranscribed and in Kirtling registers his name was spelt with just one G.
Have you any idea what a calf jobber did?
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